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Proud Public Servant

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20. LOL: "Clinton runs nearly even with Romney in a head-to-head match-up" (para 4)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:43 AM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Yeah, that's some formidable candidacy.

But let's talk about what this poll really means, as evidenced by that Clinton-Romney matchup:

1) Polling at this point measures name-recognition, period.

2) The fact that Hilary has so much more name recognition than any other potential Dem candidate is actually a problem for the long-term health of the party. The Republicans have a deep bench of 40- and 50-somethings; these people are admittedly crazy and repulsive, but they appeal to the party faithful and can raise serious money. We, meanwhile have apparently been so bad at showcasing our up-and-coming leaders that we're coalescing around the oldest candidate our party will ever have run, and are only seriously talking about her senior-citizen peers as alternatives. We're like the Ottoman Empire of parties.

New Hampshire Is Not The Nation cantbeserious Nov 2014 #1
Neither is Vermont. brooklynite Nov 2014 #4
Neither was Illiniois. Neither is any state that elects a Governor or US Senator. And? merrily Nov 2014 #8
Funny you should mention that Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #25
Absolutely right; and the primary is not the general election. razorman Nov 2014 #56
She won on name recognition in an imaginary race. Let's not even bother w primaries!! ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #2
"She won on name recognition..." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #3
President Hillary Clinton will be carved on Mt. Rushmore! MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #5
She will be a bust, merrily Nov 2014 #7
Objectification of women is NOT appreciated here MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #69
Those high numbers apparently don't predict electability. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #11
History Robbins Nov 2014 #12
And Tsongas beat Clinton nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #13
There's a name I have not seen in print in too long a time. Octafish Nov 2014 #84
Paul's wife Nikki is in Congress MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #89
LOL! Segami Nov 2014 #21
It should be noted that Gore did win dsc Nov 2014 #22
... LittleBlue Nov 2014 #63
Polls this far out are useless. For example, Hillary's numbers are lower than they were a year ago. merrily Nov 2014 #6
Science of polls aspirant Nov 2014 #43
This far out, polls are pure bullshit. More an attempt to shape public opinion than to measure it. merrily Nov 2014 #51
Shaping is no more than propaganda aspirant Nov 2014 #66
Corporate polling!!! Trying to shove a non alternative against JEB! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #47
Jeb is polling considerably lower than Romney. merrily Nov 2014 #48
JEB is going to be the nominee TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #61
Chew on? BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #9
She can save a billion dollars by winning w/out ever campaigning NightWatcher Nov 2014 #10
That doesn't seem to be the best club to be in. Renew Deal Nov 2014 #14
We'll see what happens TBF Nov 2014 #15
The 1% has succesfully nominated her in the MSM primaries. Zorra Nov 2014 #16
Which doesn't mean diddly squat for another 15 months. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #17
And the 1% will have 8 more years of growth and protection davidn3600 Nov 2014 #18
Somebody please explain to me how the DLC has anything whatsoever to do with this Gman Nov 2014 #19
The DLC disbanded in 2011 Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #26
Agree re DLC, disagree re Warren and Sanders. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #101
Democratic Socialist aspirant Nov 2014 #102
The "Socialist" label might be more damaging because it's true. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #103
He's labeled himself as a Democratic Socialist not a communist aspirant Nov 2014 #104
Please don't get so defensive. I'd love to see Sanders elected, but I don't ignore the obstacles. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #108
Opinions are just opinions aspirant Nov 2014 #109
My opinions aren't just opinions. They're actual wild guesses. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #110
Nice try, wild guesses are statistically correct. aspirant Nov 2014 #111
LOL: "Clinton runs nearly even with Romney in a head-to-head match-up" (para 4) Proud Public Servant Nov 2014 #20
The OP is MISLEADING Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #23
Go Cosmic Kitten! Excellent post! ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #24
And not leading "in the primary," since she's not running and there is no primary. Orsino Nov 2014 #27
Bada Bing! LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #34
Would you risk your life on a poll? aspirant Nov 2014 #44
Certainly not a poll of 404 Democratic primary voters! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #67
Follow-up aspirant Nov 2014 #70
That's the right idea. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #71
Continuing follow-up aspirant Nov 2014 #72
When does the time come when we flush all these polls down the toilet? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #86
Let's revist these fredamae Nov 2014 #28
More facts for the weary to chew over and over. Bring on the candidates, the real choices will be Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #29
It's over a year before the NH primary. Stop this Inevitability shit. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #30
Is The Primary Tomorrow? Liberal_Dog Nov 2014 #31
Will that increase her market value with Goldman Sachs? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #32
She running yet? Anyone else running yet? Autumn Nov 2014 #33
You noticed that too? DFW Nov 2014 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author jwirr Nov 2014 #52
Ridiculous. She must state her positions, and in detail--IF SHE DECLARES DFW Nov 2014 #54
I looked back and see you deserve an apology. I think I answered the wrong post. Very sorry. Will jwirr Nov 2014 #64
OK, Thanks for the rectification. DFW Nov 2014 #87
Thank you. jwirr Nov 2014 #88
I think the point is to have us all buy in to "no primaries". djean111 Nov 2014 #35
Big Nope. The more of these useless polls and graphs seen LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #37
She's not my favorite candidate, but some of the disrespect shown to her Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #36
It does NOT speak about the character of "critics" Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #40
I don't feel the need to defend my position. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #42
You conflate "demonizing" with criticism. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #45
OK, thanks for sharing. nt Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #46
So anyone in public office can do anything & its ok with you because they are sacrificing to be RiverLover Nov 2014 #53
No, but a woman responsible for me having medical insurance as a child can. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #55
She is no liberal. merrily Nov 2014 #50
Public service that pays a whole lot of money! LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #57
I'd prefer Warren, but I won't demonize the Clintons to get her. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #59
Alright, but that list is pretty damning and I think worth reminding folks. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #60
It's not "demonic". Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #68
After the 2008 primaries, she should be persona non grata in Democratic circles. ieoeja Nov 2014 #74
And we need someone decent at the helm. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #77
Not to mention Robbins Nov 2014 #78
Unfortunately, there are plenty of these types of leftovers from 2008: LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #105
Are these the same people aspirant Nov 2014 #106
I completely agree with that sentiment. AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #112
That is the ONLY poster I have on ignore. ieoeja Nov 2014 #114
K&R stonecutter357 Nov 2014 #39
Are you applauding Hillary being in a dead heat with republicans? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #41
She leads in NH Democratic primary. Okay who was she running against? I does not say. jwirr Nov 2014 #49
I find it hard to get excited about her LordGlenconner Nov 2014 #58
Yours is a majority statement. We need an alternative that both sides will want over Bush/Clinton TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #62
Did you actually read the link! A bad sign in there as well... TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #65
That's nice. But, I still won't vote fore her. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #73
If she's the candidate, how many will simply fail to show up? closeupready Nov 2014 #75
If people fail to show up, they voted for Jeb by default. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #76
And that's the problem with her - she doesn't MOTIVATE. Consider, closeupready Nov 2014 #79
Your absoletly right Robbins Nov 2014 #80
The next President will likely nominate replacements for the two oldest members of the Supreme Court Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #81
You are not persuasive that Hillary will motivate independents to vote. closeupready Nov 2014 #83
If they don't vote they are conservatives who want Jeb Bush Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #85
Good then let's all unite for President Bernie and vote aspirant Nov 2014 #94
If he changes parties and runs in the Primary, I intend to suport him. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #100
Clinton owns a year? Caretha Nov 2014 #115
Other than some grumpy people here, where is there a sign that Democrats won't vote for Hillary? brooklynite Nov 2014 #91
Um, every Democratic candidate who lost after being endorsed closeupready Nov 2014 #92
And you think the average Democratic voter will remember that? brooklynite Nov 2014 #93
Will they remember their Democrats? aspirant Nov 2014 #95
I can see critical thinking is not your strong point. closeupready Nov 2014 #99
So the strategy is: hope voters are forgetful. Union Scribe Nov 2014 #113
Polls close in 15 Hari Seldon Nov 2014 #82
Can we vote early and often until we get purged? aspirant Nov 2014 #96
Early but a good sign. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #90
This could be good or bad news. maced666 Nov 2014 #97
Or this could be no news, since polls are worthless aspirant Nov 2014 #98
Funny how they mention Ted Kennedy in 1980 Reter Nov 2014 #107
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