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thoughtandmemory

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70. I can't verify that he was charged or jailed.

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 05:27 PM

Dec 2014

However, you could say the same of any protester who was ever arrested from a group. The arrests incite the crowd in general and show that the police are taking action. An undercover police officer doesn't have to be a violent agitator, so if you believe there is a conspiracy, why not treat all arrested protesters with suspicion?

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In these cases the police weren't inflicting violence daredtowork Dec 2014 #2

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Hey, I'm not against the revolution actually fighting back daredtowork Dec 2014 #6

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I think that's what the other poster was stating WhiteTara Dec 2014 #34

City leaders/planners need to be made aware of this daredtowork Dec 2014 #50

I'd say it's at least a 50-50 chance it was the cops. lob1 Dec 2014 #73

Chicago police blared 'Sweet Home Alabama' around black protestors, so it's likely not one-sided. ancianita Dec 2014 #114

Canadian police have been caught infiltrating demonstrations apparently as agents provocateur Fumesucker Dec 2014 #3

WOW! daredtowork Dec 2014 #5

Yup. Here's something to ask yourself... Scootaloo Dec 2014 #8

Yep, I am asking that right here. daredtowork Dec 2014 #9

This happens all too often. PotatoChip Dec 2014 #13

They surrounded a guy who took their picture and forced him to give up his film daredtowork Dec 2014 #53

Correction thoughtandmemory Dec 2014 #18

Oh good. What city isthat? Is there more information? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #21

Uh, it's Berkeley. thoughtandmemory Dec 2014 #65

Not at that image size I can't Scootaloo Dec 2014 #66

Ah, DU formats image links weirdly. thoughtandmemory Dec 2014 #68

I can read it on the back of the cars, and on the shoulder patches. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #93

Was he charged? Spend time in jail? Scuba Dec 2014 #36

I can't verify that he was charged or jailed. thoughtandmemory Dec 2014 #70

I was at the Inaugural protests in 2001 deutsey Dec 2014 #104

I don't have a twitter account daredtowork Dec 2014 #10

They are police infiltrators. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #11

It sucks that the people of Berkeley would buy into that, then daredtowork Dec 2014 #12

Can you say "COINTELPRO"? Ford_Prefect Dec 2014 #14

No - I've been thinking the "private hire" storyline myself daredtowork Dec 2014 #54

I never discount the possibility that RWers, either in or out of government, are the instigators. merrily Dec 2014 #15

In the 60s we used to say, "Beware the spit-shined sandals!" FraDon Dec 2014 #16

+1, n/t RKP5637 Dec 2014 #29

My job in demos: Parade marshall. I was on the lookout Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #46

The shoes tell the story to this day, IMO. nt Raine1967 Dec 2014 #49

to all those who "know' they are provocateurs, fbi, angry teenagers, bored housewives.... ellenrr Dec 2014 #17

Don't need to know them, just keep 'em isolated, Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #47

The problem is if they do the damage, they do undermine the protest daredtowork Dec 2014 #55

I dont believe in the conspiracy theories that they are police davidn3600 Dec 2014 #19

The police will infiltrate if they have to. stone space Dec 2014 #26

Yep. Had to deal with some. They throw a lot of Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #48

I don't believe it's always from "Outside the Community" daredtowork Dec 2014 #59

you really should educate yourself as to what anarchism is before you spout a whole ellenrr Dec 2014 #100

That's not what anarchism is about. Leopolds Ghost Dec 2014 #105

During the antiwar rallies in NYC before the war in Iraq, I saw a couple of those guys harrassing peacebird Dec 2014 #20

Might be a couple rogue "Darren Wilson Supporters" in the mix nt daredtowork Dec 2014 #58

I'm certain that some Black Bloc members are genuine. thoughtandmemory Dec 2014 #22

What school or institution were these students from? - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #39

My school thoughtandmemory Dec 2014 #64

sure, let's see your proof, thanks uppityperson Dec 2014 #45

I'm not posting my student ID if that's what you want. thoughtandmemory Dec 2014 #67

I was just reply I to your claim "I can provide proof". you said it, so sure, I'd be happy to uppityperson Dec 2014 #96

The distinction betwen Agents Provocateurs and sincere assholes... stone space Dec 2014 #23

Exactly. And it id a good thing to accept the fact that they might NOT be police. arcane1 Dec 2014 #63

In my twisted mind, I see the day when safeinOhio Dec 2014 #24

They aren't necessarily on-duty cops or agents daredtowork Dec 2014 #56

They may be police themselves. Note nothing ever seems to happen to them. They always get away. n kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #25

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Speculation is not necessary. rogerashton Dec 2014 #27

How many times do you have to see a tactic not working? daredtowork Dec 2014 #57

It not only doesn't work, it is destructive. rogerashton Dec 2014 #69

What do you suggest the peaceful protesters do? daredtowork Dec 2014 #71

Well, that's the dilemma rogerashton Dec 2014 #72

Possible tactics to disrupt Black Block actions PeacefulIntention Dec 2014 #76

While trying to stop them, a peaceful protester got hit on the head with a hammer tonight daredtowork Dec 2014 #97

Safer and more useful to disengage from violent protesters PeacefulIntention Dec 2014 #98

This sounds smart, and I defer to the poster's experience. rogerashton Dec 2014 #103

There's a textbook around about this shit... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #28

Exactly! "a few might be caught for show, but then the story ends." It's the SOS again, RKP5637 Dec 2014 #32

Teabaggers hoping to get a full blown riot started. ileus Dec 2014 #30

You said it with these words madokie Dec 2014 #31

Yep, exactly what is going on IMO. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2014 #33

It was perfected by Fred Phelps loyalsister Dec 2014 #95

I'm happy that old bastard is gone madokie Dec 2014 #99

They're not "infiltrators" Prism Dec 2014 #35

The fact that protests inconvenience the locals Generic Other Dec 2014 #37

"Inconvenience the locals" Prism Dec 2014 #38

I am not an anarchist Generic Other Dec 2014 #40

What I've noticed about DU and (white) America is that it's become verboten to question the system Leopolds Ghost Dec 2014 #109

Revolutionary times? Really. hack89 Dec 2014 #75

They keep happening all over the world Generic Other Dec 2014 #77

Nothing of that scale in America hack89 Dec 2014 #79

The British said that about the Boston Massacre Generic Other Dec 2014 #80

Don't put words in my mouth hack89 Dec 2014 #81

You used the words "side show" Generic Other Dec 2014 #83

You are trying too hard to be outraged. Nt hack89 Dec 2014 #84

My blood pressure is not even close to outrage level Generic Other Dec 2014 #85

You are the one who twisted my use of the phrase side show hack89 Dec 2014 #86

I didn't call you anything. You called me "delusional" Generic Other Dec 2014 #89

Ok. Have a nice revolution. Nt hack89 Dec 2014 #102

Were any of the 'assholes' arrested and put on trial? If so, names and identities, please? Otherwise KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #41

This exactly what the "anarchists" were trying to do daredtowork Dec 2014 #61

Now the anarchists are to blame for attempting to shut down the freeway. Lol. Leopolds Ghost Dec 2014 #106

I thought it was obvious they were cops? MelungeonWoman Dec 2014 #42

Obvious to me Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #51

Whoop it up for them ....... Historic NY Dec 2014 #43

they show up at every protest of any kind and have for many years TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #44

But it sounds so much cooler to pretend they're all cops, and that there are no assholes present. arcane1 Dec 2014 #113

The anarchists have been caught and arrested, though when arrested they usually don't claim okaawhatever Dec 2014 #52

COINTELPRO, anyone? Hekate Dec 2014 #60

Bullshit, go back and look at the photos... Historic NY Dec 2014 #82

During the 2003 protests in SF, they were young kids doing the same thing arcane1 Dec 2014 #62

check this out, Oakland PD caught in the act Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #74

No doubt that Law Enforcement agents and assets are in the crowds. Youtube: NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #87

OMG I think I saw that guy tonight! daredtowork Dec 2014 #90

I imagine lots of possibilities, all valid, all occur from time to time. These include: NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #91

I used to see them at ANSWER protests ucrdem Dec 2014 #92

You DO know that ANSWER is to the left of anarchism Leopolds Ghost Dec 2014 #108

They're still around. I don't know that and I'm not sure it's true. ucrdem Dec 2014 #111

I don't have a problem with ANSWER per se, but they certainly seemed bizarrely effective Leopolds Ghost Dec 2014 #112

At the time I was there, I didn't see any cops in uniform daredtowork Dec 2014 #94

Probably real anarchists; extremists are on the rise everywhere Albertoo Dec 2014 #78

Saw the anarchists in DC during the Bush years Oilwellian Dec 2014 #88

Anarchist groups routinely get infiltrated, just like the Democratic party. n/t Leopolds Ghost Dec 2014 #107

LOL Oilwellian Dec 2014 #110