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In reply to the discussion: NYT Op-ed: Pardon Bush and Those Who Tortured [View all]Albertoo
(2,016 posts)25. The difference between torture and rendition
Torture is wrong, ineffective and inefficient.
- wrong, for obvious reasons
- ineffective, because it doesn't work on fanatics
- inefficient, because it helps recruit thousands more for the enemy
A rendition is more debatable
If you catch a foreign fanatic on US soil busy setting up terrorist cells, jail him in the US, he'll spend decades reading the Quran and being hailed as a hero, martyr, saint, whatever.
Render him to his country of origin and you save money and effort, he loses his hero mystique and he might give info to the foreign interrogators.
My position might not be morally consistent or praiseworthy, but at least, I suppose you can grant me there is a difference between the wo processes.
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Sorry to disagree, but a UN treaty to which the US is party and domestic law already prove
merrily
Dec 2014
#2
What part of "unofficial" is too complicated for you? Didn't prosecute, did he? Just let the
merrily
Dec 2014
#14
Yes, and I appreciate that. However, there is legal technicality and then there is public
merrily
Dec 2014
#31
Ford clung to that after he pardoned Nixon, but a lot of people think it means you were not
merrily
Dec 2014
#19
The point that I got listening to him was that if the case is left unsettled then the door is left
jwirr
Dec 2014
#28
Committing genocide, including of Jews who are fellow Germans in Germany, is not a war.
merrily
Dec 2014
#16
The other reason for a pardon is that it eliminates their 5th Amendment shelter
Algernon Moncrieff
Dec 2014
#4
I agree but how are we going to get a prosecution? If it were that easy it should have been done a
jwirr
Dec 2014
#30
Extraordinary rendition is not what you are describing. It is forcing people often uncharged with
uppityperson
Dec 2014
#26