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countryjake

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24. Did you see this?
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:25 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)

American Torture -- Past, Present, and… Future?
Beyond the Senate Torture Report
Rebecca Gordon, The Torture Wars

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175934/tomgram%3A_rebecca_gordon%2C_the_torture_wars/#more


It’s the political story of the week in Washington. At long last, after the endless stalling and foot-shuffling, the arguments about redaction and CIA computer hacking, the claims that its release might stoke others out there in the Muslim world to violence and “throw the C.I.A. to the wolves,” the report—you know which one—is out. Or at least, the redacted executive summary of it is available to be read and, as Senator Mark Udall said before its release, “When this report is declassified, people will abhor what they read. They’re gonna be disgusted. They’re gonna be appalled. They’re gonna be shocked at what we did.”

So now we can finally consider the partial release of the long-awaited report from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence about the gruesome CIA interrogation methods used during the Bush administration’s “Global War on Terror.” But here’s one important thing to keep in mind: this report addresses only the past practices of a single agency. Its narrow focus encourages us to believe that, whatever the CIA may have once done, that whole sorry torture chapter is now behind us.

In other words, the moment we get to read it, it’s already time to turn the page. So be shocked, be disgusted, be appalled, but don’t be fooled. The Senate torture report, so many years and obstacles in the making, should only be the starting point for a discussion, not the final word on US torture. Here’s why.

Mainstream coverage of US torture in general, and of this new report in particular, rests on three false assumptions:

1. The most important question is whether torture “worked.”

2. US torture ended when George W. Bush left office.

3. The only kind of torture that really “counts” happens in foreign war zones.

Let’s look at each of these in order.


Article was also published by The Nation.
A truly beautiful speech flamingdem Dec 2014 #1
I have tears listening to this madokie Dec 2014 #3
Some Afro Cuban music - this is for Ellegua the door opener - who clears obstacles flamingdem Dec 2014 #5
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! malaise Dec 2014 #10
Kick and rec to watch later. A huge day. morningfog Dec 2014 #2
Are we closing down Guantanomo Bay Aerows Dec 2014 #4
WHAT.THE.FUCK????????????????????? Schema Thing Dec 2014 #6
It's a perfectly legitimate question: Hissyspit Dec 2014 #16
Is addressing the huge elephant in the room Aerows Dec 2014 #21
... babylonsister Dec 2014 #7
+ 1000 countryjake Dec 2014 #18
Me too. Aerows Dec 2014 #22
Did you see this? countryjake Dec 2014 #24
At least there will be something Aerows Dec 2014 #25
About goddamned time Scootaloo Dec 2014 #8
Don't worry Aerows Dec 2014 #23
Here it is, the speech heard in Central America (you know states that start with a vowel, and such) Brother Buzz Dec 2014 #9
Mahalo madokie! Cha Dec 2014 #11
Mahalo Cha madokie Dec 2014 #13
And, I'm loving it.. thank you.. Cha Dec 2014 #14
I'm celebrating tonight come hell or high water madokie Dec 2014 #15
I was still reeling from all the Judicial Nominees CONFIRMED.. and our New SG, Dr Vetek Murthy.. Cha Dec 2014 #17
i've been on cloud nine since a couple days after the election madokie Dec 2014 #19
Precisely, madokie! Cha Dec 2014 #20
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He's very aware of time. 'In my second term, I will have more flexibility.' ~ President Barack Obama freshwest Dec 2014 #36
Momentous! yellowwoodII Dec 2014 #12
Thanks, madokie! freshwest Dec 2014 #26
White House factsheet: charting a new course on Cuba malaise Dec 2014 #27
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Our lame duck healed pretty fast, huh madokie Dec 2014 #30
Impeccable timing in more ways than one malaise Dec 2014 #31
Pour it in the sewer and try to float his way out of here madokie Dec 2014 #32
Yes. lovemydog Dec 2014 #33
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