Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Here it is, the speech heard around the world today [View all]countryjake
(8,554 posts)24. Did you see this?
Last edited Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)
American Torture -- Past, Present, and
Future?
Beyond the Senate Torture Report
Rebecca Gordon, The Torture Wars
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175934/tomgram%3A_rebecca_gordon%2C_the_torture_wars/#more
Its the political story of the week in Washington. At long last, after the endless stalling and foot-shuffling, the arguments about redaction and CIA computer hacking, the claims that its release might stoke others out there in the Muslim world to violence and throw the C.I.A. to the wolves, the reportyou know which oneis out. Or at least, the redacted executive summary of it is available to be read and, as Senator Mark Udall said before its release, When this report is declassified, people will abhor what they read. Theyre gonna be disgusted. Theyre gonna be appalled. Theyre gonna be shocked at what we did.
So now we can finally consider the partial release of the long-awaited report from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence about the gruesome CIA interrogation methods used during the Bush administrations Global War on Terror. But heres one important thing to keep in mind: this report addresses only the past practices of a single agency. Its narrow focus encourages us to believe that, whatever the CIA may have once done, that whole sorry torture chapter is now behind us.
In other words, the moment we get to read it, its already time to turn the page. So be shocked, be disgusted, be appalled, but dont be fooled. The Senate torture report, so many years and obstacles in the making, should only be the starting point for a discussion, not the final word on US torture. Heres why.
Mainstream coverage of US torture in general, and of this new report in particular, rests on three false assumptions:
1. The most important question is whether torture worked.
2. US torture ended when George W. Bush left office.
3. The only kind of torture that really counts happens in foreign war zones.
Lets look at each of these in order.
Beyond the Senate Torture Report
Rebecca Gordon, The Torture Wars
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175934/tomgram%3A_rebecca_gordon%2C_the_torture_wars/#more
Its the political story of the week in Washington. At long last, after the endless stalling and foot-shuffling, the arguments about redaction and CIA computer hacking, the claims that its release might stoke others out there in the Muslim world to violence and throw the C.I.A. to the wolves, the reportyou know which oneis out. Or at least, the redacted executive summary of it is available to be read and, as Senator Mark Udall said before its release, When this report is declassified, people will abhor what they read. Theyre gonna be disgusted. Theyre gonna be appalled. Theyre gonna be shocked at what we did.
So now we can finally consider the partial release of the long-awaited report from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence about the gruesome CIA interrogation methods used during the Bush administrations Global War on Terror. But heres one important thing to keep in mind: this report addresses only the past practices of a single agency. Its narrow focus encourages us to believe that, whatever the CIA may have once done, that whole sorry torture chapter is now behind us.
In other words, the moment we get to read it, its already time to turn the page. So be shocked, be disgusted, be appalled, but dont be fooled. The Senate torture report, so many years and obstacles in the making, should only be the starting point for a discussion, not the final word on US torture. Heres why.
Mainstream coverage of US torture in general, and of this new report in particular, rests on three false assumptions:
1. The most important question is whether torture worked.
2. US torture ended when George W. Bush left office.
3. The only kind of torture that really counts happens in foreign war zones.
Lets look at each of these in order.
Article was also published by The Nation.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
36 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Some Afro Cuban music - this is for Ellegua the door opener - who clears obstacles
flamingdem
Dec 2014
#5
Here it is, the speech heard in Central America (you know states that start with a vowel, and such)
Brother Buzz
Dec 2014
#9
I was still reeling from all the Judicial Nominees CONFIRMED.. and our New SG, Dr Vetek Murthy..
Cha
Dec 2014
#17