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In reply to the discussion: Why would your un-vaccinated kids be a threat to my vaccinated kids? [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)165. Not when "thousands of parents" report the same sequence, as described by Mary Holland.
Last edited Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:46 PM - Edit history (1)
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/2/5/inside_the_vaccine_war_measles_outbreak
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2015
Inside the Vaccine War: Measles Outbreak Rekindles Debate on Autism, Parental Choice & Public Health
DemocracyNow Video and Transcript
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2015
Inside the Vaccine War: Measles Outbreak Rekindles Debate on Autism, Parental Choice & Public Health
DemocracyNow Video and Transcript
GUESTS:
Dorit Rubinstein Reiss, professor of law at University of California, Hastings College of the Law, who specializes in legal issues related to vaccines, including exemption laws. She co-authored a report last year titled, "Funding the Costs of Disease Outbreaks Caused by Non-Vaccination."
Mary Holland, research scholar at NYU School of Law and adviser to Health Choice. Shes also a contributor to the blog, "Age of Autism." Holland is the co-editor of the book, Vaccine Epidemic: How Corporate Greed, Biased Science, and Coercive Government Threaten Our Human Rights, Our Health, and Our Children. And she is the mother of a child with regressive autism who, she believes, was injured by the MMR vaccination.
Dr. Paul Offit, professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases and the director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia. He is also professor of vaccinology and a professor of pediatrics at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. He is the co-inventor of the rotavirus vaccine, RotaTeq, recommended for universal use in infants by the CDC. He is author of numerous books, including Autisms False Prophets: Bad Science, Risky Medicine, and the Search for a Cure and Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All.
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Why would your un-vaccinated kids be a threat to my vaccinated kids? [View all]
Algernon Moncrieff
Jan 2015
OP
I don't think vaccines in general are ineffective. I just don't think this kind of attack is
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#7
They won't be swayed by crap like this, that's for sure. I can only assume there's no desire
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#46
Idiocy rarely needs validation or solidification. Idiots are rarely swayed by science...
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#158
I don't think that kind of insulting presentation wins over anyone or inoculates anyone.
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#126
I don't think I would ever listen to someone who called children "crotch fruit."
Chemisse
Jan 2015
#11
so that would rule out everyone quoting the king james bible and "fruit of my loins"?
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2015
#93
all words are just 'words' -- and people do get to 'arbitrarily' decide which words are acceptable
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#125
same way "fuck" and "intercourse" refer the same thing. yet one is vulgar, the other clinical.
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#159
Yes, it's vile. I thnk we can assume it's not intended to reach anyone, but to alienate them.
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#22
Umm. I don't find the article neutrally written, nor the researcher particularly credible.
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#47
I understand what you are saying, but this kind of language tends to polarize.
Chemisse
Jan 2015
#31
The only issue I can compare it to in terms of willful ignorance is climate change
Algernon Moncrieff
Jan 2015
#32
Exactly. I wasn't going to get a flu shot because I knew I would probably recover ok if I got
GoneFishin
Jan 2015
#109
But you wouldn't be the person who irritated him into voicing things that way....
Moonwalk
Jan 2015
#110
It may work with some people, and backfire with others. It would not work with me.
GoneFishin
Jan 2015
#116
And once again, with feeling: you are not the one that anyone is trying to convince with this....
Moonwalk
Jan 2015
#139
This isn't to reach them, it is to shame and ridicule them. With good reason.
morningfog
Jan 2015
#142
Good post, sometimes facts need to be stated strongly for some to understand.
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#5
Of course, if someone doesn't vaccinate their kids for every other malady under the sun,
truedelphi
Jan 2015
#16
Yes, because being sweet and polite when it comes to these idiots works soooo well.
zappaman
Jan 2015
#30
zappaman has already shown us the only study that matters. multiple times. it PROVES that
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#61
posting that 'study' over and over isn't changing anyone's mind either. and it's ironic you'd claim
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#48
Voltaire and Twain were needlessly insulting to idiots both at home and abroad too.
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#161
Anti-vaxxers are abusing their children, and other people's children too.
DemocraticWing
Jan 2015
#37
Bereaved mom of a week-old infant interviewed on CNN this past week. Whooping cough.
Hekate
Jan 2015
#45
Not really. Old graveyards are full of stone Angels drooping over little graves.
Hekate
Jan 2015
#75
Our home got tagged for typhoid exposure in 1956, until we all tested clean. Tubercular kids...
Hekate
Jan 2015
#119
and understood the two points: 1) pertussis vaccine was changed about 2000; 2) new vaccine
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#58
so what? that doesn't mean the vaccine is 100% effective, and it doesn't mean that the
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#60
did you read my post, or you just want to talk to yourself? In a study of over 6000 cases,
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#68
And I'm saying that in that CDC study of 6000+ cases, half of those who got whooping cough
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#71
It's not my data; it's from the Centers for Disease Control. I'd say it carries more authority than
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#91
I'd love to see someone post something similar to this, directed at gun owners.
Crunchy Frog
Jan 2015
#82
I have mixed feelings about this message. While I think not vaccinating kids is foolish;
deafskeptic
Jan 2015
#90
Appreciate the good information and your experience. I admire courage like yours a
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#97
Yes, this is made up of a lot of insults. But I think the point is being missed...
Moonwalk
Jan 2015
#111
Anti-vaxxers are to be shamed and shunned, they are immune to logic and facts.
geek tragedy
Jan 2015
#118
A less coarse version was posted on March 18, 2014 by Diana MacPherson on "Canadian Atheist" website
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#131
Why don't you define your terms? ANS: You cannot without insulting the bulk of the world's people.
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#138
"CDC releases a statement on their web site confirming that the study parameters were changed
GoneFishin
Jan 2015
#143
Thanks. Here's a response to that statement and a 2004 letter written by Dr. Thompson.
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2015
#150
Is there a larger problem regarding autism, i.e. the link to sources of mercury?
AntiFascist
Jan 2015
#156
My fear is that the wrong industry is getting the majority blame for skyrocketing rates of autism...
AntiFascist
Feb 2015
#164
Not when "thousands of parents" report the same sequence, as described by Mary Holland.
proverbialwisdom
Feb 2015
#165