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AverageJoe90

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84. Some truth here, but do note what I pointed out earlier.

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:58 PM

Feb 2015

Slavery may not have been in *immediate* economic danger in 1860, that may very well be true. But again, slavery was a system that benefitted very few people, and held back many others, and therefore, held back the actual overall development of the South.

"It would have lasted decades longer at the least, IMO."

Perhaps, but only if the Confederacy had successfully succeeded; without that, it would very likely have ended by not much later than 1905-10, even if it took a major economic depression, and/or even outright collapse to do so....and yes, this would be despite the evolution of Southern slavery into what it became, a system of social control.

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"When Are We Going To Stop Persecuting Christians In This Country!" [View all] napkinz Feb 2015 OP

K&R Solly Mack Feb 2015 #1

Every one of them is spot on. djean111 Feb 2015 #2

they are so UNAWARE on so many levels ... the latest right-wing meme ---> napkinz Feb 2015 #6

Not to minimize slavery, but the 'war we fought to end slavery' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #8

"fought the war to END slavery" napkinz Feb 2015 #11

That is, sadly, quite true. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #36

Now, mind you, slavery could *not* have lasted forever..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #35

Slavery was uniquely "suited" to the southern economy. Adrahil Feb 2015 #69

Some truth here, but do note what I pointed out earlier. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #84

I don't really disagree with any of that. cheers! n/t Adrahil Feb 2015 #85

The Civil War was not fought to end slavery. Lincoln said he wouldn't end slavery if rhett o rick Feb 2015 #61

My son just wrote a paper for his AP US History class on this. FourScore Feb 2015 #63

"ALL" about? no. But the war was ultimately about slavery. Adrahil Feb 2015 #71

That's incomplete, I think. Adrahil Feb 2015 #70

When can we start? Is it now open season on Christians!? ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #3

... napkinz Feb 2015 #18

Oh, you're late to the party, bro... whathehell Feb 2015 #54

Yeah right more like phony persecution complex by the christians ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #64

The Persecution Complex: The Religious Right’s Deceptive Rallying Cry napkinz Feb 2015 #72

Nah, more like false equivalence by the More Politically Correct Than Thou.. whathehell Feb 2015 #81

It has been for some time. 840high Feb 2015 #60

it's not about going after Christians but the Christian Right (the fundamentalist wing of the GOP) napkinz Feb 2015 #78

Betty Bowers gives me a chubb.... KG Feb 2015 #4

Bwaaahhhahaha! louis-t Feb 2015 #32

for a second I thought it said cherub napkinz Feb 2015 #33

new quote from Betty Bowers ... napkinz Feb 2015 #96

It's not fun being a Christian Conservative ck4829 Feb 2015 #5

They had no problem with David Vitter keeping his seat in the Senate ... but President Clinton napkinz Feb 2015 #15

They do get the satisfaction Mariana Feb 2015 #31

"they derive much enjoyment out of that" napkinz Feb 2015 #38

"Hide, witch, hide. the good folk come to burn thee" hobbit709 Feb 2015 #90

I say that about covers it all. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #7

hey sheshe! napkinz Feb 2015 #12

oops ... "that about covers it all" ... can't forget this one! napkinz Feb 2015 #20

Cry baby! Lol~ sheshe2 Feb 2015 #57

K&R&Shared everywhere. nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #9

So much truth. hifiguy Feb 2015 #10

I second your rec! yuiyoshida Feb 2015 #14

Textbook! MrScorpio Feb 2015 #13

Perfect. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #16

uh huh Iliyah Feb 2015 #17

sounds like the message the president was trying to convey in his speech ... napkinz Feb 2015 #24

I notice you put christians in single quotes, like one might do when exercising the No True Scotsman AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #55

So you don't think the people phil89 Feb 2015 #77

Good God, napkinz, you are REALLY on a roll! calimary Feb 2015 #19

I think it's called being in the zone napkinz Feb 2015 #21

Tax-free and can't drive a block or two without driving past a church. Liberal Veteran Feb 2015 #22

I know right? Thav Feb 2015 #28

How about we cut you a deal: Initech Feb 2015 #23

What they say when offered a deal ... napkinz Feb 2015 #37

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #25

Thank you for the Cartoons-they are great Gothmog Feb 2015 #26

The real question is...when do we start? atreides1 Feb 2015 #27

"there isn't any Christian persecution taking place!!!" napkinz Feb 2015 #39

Excellent collection Tsiyu Feb 2015 #29

message to Fundies ... napkinz Feb 2015 #45

Hear Hear Tsiyu Feb 2015 #49

You expressed my thoughts on this perfectly... Thanks... freshwest Feb 2015 #46

and you made me think on another thread... Thanks right back atcha... Tsiyu Feb 2015 #48

I put a sign with that slogan on it on my fence..... Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2015 #58

Absolutely brilliant! smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #30

Kinda like an elephent moaning about the ant bite from the ant he stepped on. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #34

:) napkinz Feb 2015 #47

Well Said! Thespian2 Feb 2015 #40

just so long as they don't hold office napkinz Feb 2015 #51

How do you tell the difference?... uriel1972 Feb 2015 #56

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #41

Happy to K&R! B Calm Feb 2015 #43

Evil tiptonic Feb 2015 #42

K&R 47of74 Feb 2015 #44

This is how many "Christians" use their "religion".. as a way to hate.. certaintly not all or even Cha Feb 2015 #50

"the fake 'Christians' hypocrisy" napkinz Feb 2015 #52

they couldn't be any other way and make it in the GOPropagnda Machine. :( Cha Feb 2015 #53

Raphael Cruz.. misternormal Feb 2015 #66

MSNBC reports about outrageous quotes by Rafael Cruz, father of Senator Ted Cruz napkinz Feb 2015 #74

Calling Raphael Cruz Jr. misternormal Feb 2015 #95

I think the other Sherwood Schwartz show has a name more befitting Jindal ... napkinz Feb 2015 #97

Thanks for Posting These Leith Feb 2015 #59

, blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #62

RWers don't care about Christian teachings; Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #65

yep ... the Religious Right & Isis ---> napkinz Feb 2015 #80

Real Christians would never ask this question... ileus Feb 2015 #67

Actually, whathehell Feb 2015 #83

and yet that's the MANTRA of conservatives ... "Christians are being persecuted in this country" napkinz Feb 2015 #86

They have a lot of mantras, virtually all of them false, so whathehell Feb 2015 #87

agreed, it's one of several mantras napkinz Feb 2015 #88

Okay, I understand, it's just that on DU whathehell Feb 2015 #92

I made it very clear in my replies that this thread is about conservatives napkinz Feb 2015 #94

"Christians" are the most persecuting of the bunch. RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #68

What a steaming pile of horseshit. whathehell Feb 2015 #82

Not! RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #89

"not wanted in certain groups" whathehell Feb 2015 #91

Religious ones RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #93

These idiots are a total disrespect to Jesus and the message of love that he taught LynneSin Feb 2015 #73

I think you'll like the article where this graphic appeared ... napkinz Feb 2015 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #75

k and r niyad Feb 2015 #76

It can only happen after Caucasian males are no longer oppressed by The System... LanternWaste Feb 2015 #98