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laserhaas

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Tue May 12, 2015, 11:39 AM May 2015

Facts vs. Fiction: Assange Never Raped Anyone [View all]

As a victim of sexual abuse when young, where no one would listen to me and those I trusted with the details called me "punk" (in the most demeaning way) I'm well versed on the side of the vex upon victims. One can even argue that it's worse for a boy to talk about being raped - than it is for a girl by a guy.

Too often, unrequited sexual abuse sagas leads to cases of suicide (see Tree Climbers - here).

That being said, nothing gets in the craw of victims of sexual abuse, more than someone making up fabrications of being abused, in order to gain some selfish advantage. Where there are cases of people making up crap against rich guys, just to get over. Or a team of players at a school. And the girl who stayed out all night long and blamed her bo (who didn't satisfy her) or someone not even involved, so she wouldn't be punished.

All falsehoods make it harder for REAL victims to achieve justice and closure!

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IF You really want to see the facts in print and such compared to the propaganda, then the best place is the website "EXTRADITING ASSANGE".

This particular website can be labeled bias, if you so choose to say, as it details the falsities by David Allen Green and the political prosecution of Julian Assange - in Detail.

At the very bottom of the Justice for Julian Assange - EXTRADITING web page (lengthy) - it has a fact by fiction comparison that should put to rest all the manure out there.

That is, of course, unless you're hell bent to condemn a man!

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The 2 Swedish Girls in Question[/font]
-[font size=6 color=burnt] NEVER[/font] -
[font size=6 color=navy]accused Julian Assange of Rape
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That's right, ladies and gentlemen, most of U.S. (and the world actually) are being duped by main stream (lame) media; chiefly propagandized by David Allen Green. For it is a fact that this whole case was started, when one of the girls went to the police and asked if she could compel Julian Assange to give a blood test (to check for STD's).

You can, if you care about the facts, even if you, arguendo, ignore the glaring Rove issues and that the U.S. Government is after Julian Assange in connection with Private Manning (or have you totally bought into the B.S. that big gov doesn't desire to nail Assange - being totally obtuse to what has happened to Manning) - simply look at the Swedish public records (that our main stream never reports).

PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT;

The original prosecutor closed the Julian Assange case and a politico (Claes Borgström) and others took the case away from the original prosecutor and launched a campaign to "Q U E S T I O N" Julian Assange.

That's right, this whole case is about "questioning" - Assange is NOT charged any crime!

Asked on various occasions how an investigation could be restarted even though the complainants did not allege rape, Claes Borgström stated that neither woman is a lawyer, therefore neither woman can tell whether she was raped or not.

REALLY!

I don't know about you - but I sure as hell know when I've been violated!

Here's the verbatim from (this) Swedish source;


Interviewer: But [the complainant] did not at first say that she had been raped.

Borgström: Yes, but she is not a lawyer.



Despite Assange's efforts to comply with the inquiry, the prosecutor delayed the progression of the investigation. Then many strange things began to occur, including the stealing of Julian Assange's personal computers = AFTER = Sweden granted Assange permission to leave the country.

THAT's RIGHT - Julian didn't RUN away - he was granted permission!

Then - this event took place;

Assange's discussion on the phone (which happened in my presence): "They could not do this before? I have been in Sweden for six weeks. " In the journey to Berlin, Assange took four computers and his own personal baggage. The baggage and three of his computers disappeared, although his was a direct flight. Assange arrived to meet with Espresso in Berlin in the late evening (around 11 pm) without luggage, and with only one computer: a laptop which he never parts from and which travels with him on his shoulders. The episode made Assange suspicious. The three computers were never recovered. Twenty days after these events, WikiLeaks released documents on the war in Iraq (Iraq War Logs). Meanwhile, the Swedish case went on.

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About Wikileaks purportedly exposing the girls

EEEEAAANNNNTTTT! - Buzz a big NO on that one too....


On the 23rd of August, at 16:40, the police released the casefile for AA's report under Freedom of Information on the Assange case. AA's name was supposed to be redacted throughout the document, and it was, throughout the body of the document. But the police failed to redact her name from the title of the document. The police are therefore the sole and effective reason that AA's privacy as an alleged victim was breached, and that her identity is known publicly.

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AA gave an interview to the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, in which she stated that Assange is not violent, and that neither she nor SW are afraid of him. She gave this interview anonymously, and yet, when the interview was reproduced in The New York Times her full name was given out. The New York Times is therefore the effective reason that AA's name became known all over the world. From Aftonbladet:

It is completely false that we are afraid of Assange and therefore didn’t want to file a complaint. He is not violent and I do not feel threatened by him.

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[center][font size=6 color=burnt]SUMMING IT ALL UP[/font][/center]

We know our country went to war in Iraq based upon GWB's Administration lying out their butts - massively. We also know that the tapes given out by Private Manning, through Julian Assange's Wikileaks organization, deeply embarrassed the American warring machine - Greatly!

To say that big gov and the corporate military industrial complex doesn't have an axe to grind against Julian Assange - is just plain Bull C H I T!

Of the 2 Swedish girls in question, Julian Assange was never accused of rape. One girl went to the police to ask for a blood test issue and they went "AH HAH - we got him"!

Since then, there has been mass millions of dollars (over 3 million alone, for British police to surround the Embassy) to go after Julian Assange and Wikileaks; because bad faith acts do not like being exposed...

especially by an outsider!

Here's a link with the vast, Chronological details of the Julian Assange case. Including the issues of what he reported with Wikileaks hacking and how the rape case has been a fabrication from the start.

[center] Justice for Julian Assange [/center]

If you care about the facts and justice, you will see that this website has links upon links backing up each and every remark. This case is a fabrication by the powers that be - who are going after the person - who points out they are "corrupt" powers that be.

It is easy to get the world all in a tizzy - as is remarked/noted by the facts - that;

But the original privacy blunder by the police had happened much earlier: a matter of hours after the women visited the police on the 20th of August. Within two hours of the issuance of the arrest warrant, a reporter at the tabloid Expressen had been tipped off by SMS. The duty prosecutor, Maria Kjellstrand, was called, who illegally confirmed that there was an arrest warrant out for Julian Assange. Expressen then ran the story, and Kjellstrand was quoted in it. Within a matter of hours, the news had travelled around the world, was reported by every major English-language news outlet, and had associated Julian Assange's name with the word "rape" in over 3 million Google search results.

The arrest warrant had been issued by Kjellstrand during the interview with SW. The Chief Prosecutor Eva Finne was on holiday at the time. When she read SW's interview the next day, she canceled the arrest warrant, saying "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape." It has been reported by Aftonbladet that, internally, Finne has been extremely critical of the police conduct in the issuance of the warrant.

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[center][font size=5 color=navy]YOKO ONO AWARD to Julian Assange in 2013[/font][/center]
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Nothing tells the tale better than Yoko Ono's granting Julian Assange (poetically apropos - in absentia) 'The Courage Award'. These pictures are from Yoko Ono's tribute website to her husband John Lennon - titled

[center][font size=6]"Imagine Peace"[/font][/center]


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The 2 girls are a victim, of being caught up in the wheels of injustice that thrust them into a losing position. No matter how this case turns out, they will always have to hide from the public's scrutiny.

And that's a Dam Shame!

Believe what you want to believe. As for me, being a real victim of sexual abuse who fights such and other bad faith acts (including big gov and Mitt Romney), I know how justice REALLY works in this country...

I'm just sayin....

--------and sayin.......

------------------------ And Sayin.................

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13 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited
The U.S. Government IS out to nail Julian Assange
1 (8%)
Sweden is in bed with U.S. Gov
0 (0%)
Karl Rove is helping a veiled agenda
0 (0%)
The girls never, originally, accused Assange of Rape
0 (0%)
Julian is going to be prosecuted by the U.S. - one day
0 (0%)
England is on the fix of this case
0 (0%)
It's all political
0 (0%)
All of the Above
8 (62%)
Girls are rape victims
2 (15%)
Laser is an arsehole
2 (15%)
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Lets look at what the women actually told the police as seen in Assange's arrest warrant hack89 May 2015 #1
The women's statements are bogus in your hateful campaign warrant laserhaas May 2015 #2
So the events detailed in the warrant never happened? hack89 May 2015 #3
simple question. are these girls, or women? thru out your OP you say girls. there is a difference seabeyond May 2015 #4
Um no mythology May 2015 #5
And having sex with an unconscious person is rape. n/t tammywammy May 2015 #7
and holding her arms down, as she tries to reach for a condom, as he is finishing up. what a man. nt seabeyond May 2015 #22
Yep tammywammy May 2015 #43
You are missing the most important fact of all: none of this is relevant to Wikileaks, Maedhros May 2015 #6
Eggzaklee! Scuba May 2015 #9
Oh contraire - Wikileaks is toast if Julian is made a ghost laserhaas May 2015 #18
"girls/ ladies/ women" really? now that you are aware, your need is to "girls/ ladies/ women" this? seabeyond May 2015 #20
You missed "etc." gollygee May 2015 #23
ya. just a fuckin "ect..." cause the BOY is all that. nt seabeyond May 2015 #26
Viola? REP May 2015 #91
HEY... your thingy has as much to do with this thread laserhaas May 2015 #95
Just imagining anyone seriously proclaiming "Viola!" REP May 2015 #96
If Assange gets arrested, Wikileaks gets shutdown. NuclearDem May 2015 #8
+1 nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #11
Wow, what a pantload...nt SidDithers May 2015 #10
Viola! REP May 2015 #92
You're legal positions in general are not, they're not... good stevenleser May 2015 #12
I'll wait for the trial, but despise those who smear the alleged victims or try geek tragedy May 2015 #13
There you go- putting words in my mouth. laserhaas May 2015 #14
The comment was not directed at you, or anyone in particular nt geek tragedy May 2015 #16
It seems to me (and probably everyone else) that it was directed at this thread laserhaas May 2015 #19
This OP is insulting enough without referrring to grown women sufrommich May 2015 #15
repeatedly. constantly. consistently. when did the OP call assange a boy? nt seabeyond May 2015 #17
I don't get how anyone confuses girls with women. sufrommich May 2015 #21
no confusion as in awareness he now uses "girls/ ladies/ women" then next sentence uses girl seabeyond May 2015 #24
wow - the whole world has gone hate bonkers laserhaas May 2015 #29
and here comes the excuses. seabeyond May 2015 #30
Nobody thinks referring to women as women is implying that sufrommich May 2015 #31
BULL C H I T.... laserhaas May 2015 #34
Nobody has ever said that calling a woman a woman means you're saying she's old gollygee May 2015 #36
now, you really let us know what you think. ya. we figured. and lookie. we were right. seabeyond May 2015 #37
None of that has anything to do with correctly sufrommich May 2015 #38
Well, that was revealing. NuclearDem May 2015 #42
Yep. tammywammy May 2015 #45
And now the truth is revealed...nt SidDithers May 2015 #48
It's quite possible that your priority of maintaining the pretense that you're winning... LanternWaste May 2015 #57
Fine LaternWaste (an apropos name for this thread - btw) - laserhaas May 2015 #62
"It is illegal to be a nice/respecting guy" Cali_Democrat May 2015 #64
Oh no. A Nice Guy™ REP May 2015 #93
Picky is as picky does. laserhaas May 2015 #25
you mean, there was actually the consideration it might be a child? and you are just now getting seabeyond May 2015 #27
You "just learned their actual age"? Did you think the women were children before now? tammywammy May 2015 #41
Being a POS in putting words in another's mouth, because your argument fails laserhaas May 2015 #50
I asked a question, I didn't put words in your mouth. tammywammy May 2015 #56
No one ever said they were under 18 - and I did NOT mean to disparage laserhaas May 2015 #69
You should stick with your Romney shtick. n/t tammywammy May 2015 #70
You should just leave me threads alone laserhaas May 2015 #72
If you don't like my posts, the DU Admins have provided an ignore feature. tammywammy May 2015 #78
Used as a phrase of laserhaas May 2015 #71
... tammywammy May 2015 #74
It's so strange how people who make the establishment uncomfortable are all so evil and creepy... Marr May 2015 #28
Fret not, they'll all have more of same, when Romney gets heated laserhaas May 2015 #32
so, if we actually want the police to do their job, investigating rape, we are haters? seabeyond May 2015 #35
This is all B.S. and you know it. FACT the prosecutor CLOSED the case. laserhaas May 2015 #46
"and you know it." i disagree. that makes me a hater? no one allowed to disagree with you? seabeyond May 2015 #51
He's not weaseling out of any charge. laserhaas May 2015 #75
yes. he is. he hides in another country, in another embassy, to avoid court. yes. he is. seabeyond May 2015 #76
I don't think diaries on Assange ever change any minds at this point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #33
I wonder how many here, would bare up under scrutiny for their sexual times laserhaas May 2015 #39
but hold to "girls" at all cost as you repeatedly say you are being picked on. lordy.... seabeyond May 2015 #40
For you to condemn, on the use of the word girls laserhaas May 2015 #49
Calling women "girls" is demeaning. tammywammy May 2015 #52
what is your insistence on infantile'ing these women? seabeyond May 2015 #54
No one is insisting on anything - you and your mob are trying to bait laserhaas May 2015 #58
da doors!!! ya. i hear ya. seabeyond May 2015 #61
..... tammywammy May 2015 #63
dafuq NuclearDem May 2015 #47
Didn't you know, if you challenge the state-sponsored narrative in this case, backscatter712 May 2015 #44
Watch out - they'll burn me at the stake laserhaas May 2015 #53
Other - I have no idea. NaturalHigh May 2015 #55
It could be convenient and still true gollygee May 2015 #59
It could definitely be true. NaturalHigh May 2015 #65
You both make valid points. It is glaring this came when Wikileaks LEAKED laserhaas May 2015 #66
Or coincidental tammywammy May 2015 #68
I agree that's a possibility. NaturalHigh May 2015 #87
Assange left Sweden the day before his scheduled interview with the prosecutor hack89 May 2015 #60
Well, at least you got one rec. Dr. Strange May 2015 #67
Ha ha - I rec'd it myself (always promote via the 4 options) laserhaas May 2015 #77
as rape victims know all TOO well. seabeyond May 2015 #79
The rec confirmed my vote!!!!! lol. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #73
"Girls"??? ismnotwasm May 2015 #80
Yeah, but calling women "women" means you're calling them old or something. tammywammy May 2015 #82
Bahhahahahahaha!!! ismnotwasm May 2015 #88
Illegal to be a nice guy. Codeine May 2015 #89
Yeah tammywammy May 2015 #94
The POLL is telltale (as usual) of a divided DU realm laserhaas May 2015 #81
Or you know, it's a bullshit unscientific poll. tammywammy May 2015 #83
cause it is so progressive to run from rape charges. seabeyond May 2015 #84
Whatever you say. NuclearDem May 2015 #85
Or maybe it's just shit. Codeine May 2015 #90
I have no idea if he raped anybody. Beacool May 2015 #86
Kick... SidDithers May 2015 #97
ya seabeyond May 2015 #98
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