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Nobel_Twaddle_III

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136. It will not be your problem.

Reply to Nye Bevan (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:25 PM

Jul 2015

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People who compare same-sex marriage and polygamy need to fuck off [View all] geek tragedy Jul 2015 OP

yep jberryhill Jul 2015 #1

Yup bigwillq Jul 2015 #2

All the same HassleCat Jul 2015 #3

While I agree, the polygamists themselves are determined to claim linkage -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #4

Well, the Sister Wives dudebros need to fuck off. They geek tragedy Jul 2015 #6

As I understand it, the recent same-sex marriage decision was a narrow one. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #82

Discrimination Paradigm Shift Jul 2015 #98

Discrimination does not mean just differentiating. (Legally) JDPriestly Jul 2015 #105

Please see post 191 asturias31 Jul 2015 #195

Some on DU support it. B2G Jul 2015 #5

See title of OP.nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #7

I don't have a problem with consenting adults legalizing their unions. Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #14

their relationships are already legal. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #17

How so? nt B2G Jul 2015 #20

they don't face jail time for having sexual relationships with each other. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #21

Neither did gay people. B2G Jul 2015 #22

They did until 2003. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #23

Gays were imprisioned for have sexual relations prior to 2003? B2G Jul 2015 #24

. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #25

Sodomy laws. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #27

I was fully aware of them. B2G Jul 2015 #32

Creative movement of the goalposts... LanternWaste Jul 2015 #36

Gerogia. SheilaT Jul 2015 #80

Adultery laws could apply, so not entirely legal if a marriage were in any way involved -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #157

dupe Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #14

+10 million!!!! Nt riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #8

Any of the idiotic talking points against same sex marriage need to FO. Yesterday I just heard an still_one Jul 2015 #9

What if one wife wants to stop life support and the other one does not? Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #10

I've said before that if you want marriage to be more like Wall Street, geek tragedy Jul 2015 #11

It will not be your problem. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jul 2015 #136

The map isn't correct Nevernose Jul 2015 #12

There's no reason why people can't pursue a polyamorous lifestyle, of course. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #13

Speaking from Holland: it is illegal here. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #26

Netherlands has civil unions for polygamous people LittleBlue Jul 2015 #28

This has long been debunked. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #59

I know LittleBlue Jul 2015 #65

Functionally: yes Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #148

Depends on what you call it. "Samenlevingscontract" Nevernose Jul 2015 #122

Nope. No recognition from the state means no marriage. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #149

It's really no different LittleBlue Jul 2015 #16

Lines are arbitrary, and we move them around how we want, when we want The2ndWheel Jul 2015 #18

Yes, and the line should be moving forward, not backwards. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #19

plus it hardly lines up with the gay-marriage map MisterP Jul 2015 #58

As of an hour ago... Treant Jul 2015 #89

There is nothing wrong with consensual polyamorous relationships WDIM Jul 2015 #29

they're free to form limited partnerships and closely-held corporations and geek tragedy Jul 2015 #30

Same thing people use to say about homosexuals WDIM Jul 2015 #31

I refer you to the subject line of my OP. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #33

It's funny how when black people say the same thing about comparing gay rights to civil rights craigmatic Jul 2015 #39

the movement for GLBT civil rights is not the same as African-Americans' geek tragedy Jul 2015 #43

So you're calling a bunch of African, Asian, and Arab countries culturally backwards? craigmatic Jul 2015 #47

Polygamy is illegal in the vast majority of Asia and all of Latin America as well geek tragedy Jul 2015 #52

You're doing two things at once here that don't necessarily go togther. You make it seem like craigmatic Jul 2015 #56

Oh barf. You're defending oppression of women and GLBT people as "not wrong" geek tragedy Jul 2015 #57

I am trying to figure a way of articulating it... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #64

it's putting marriage equality (and by implication homosexuality and trans status) on geek tragedy Jul 2015 #69

I'm not trying to stigmatize gay marriage. I'm glad they got their rights but if poly people want craigmatic Jul 2015 #75

If my mom was alive could I marry her, and if no, why not?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #77

ok now you're just trolling. craigmatic Jul 2015 #83

You seem to be arguing that polygamy is just another lifestyle... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #87

poly is just another lifestyle. I do not condone incest it's not my way craigmatic Jul 2015 #90

And you're calling for more government involvement in the bedroom. craigmatic Jul 2015 #67

you seem confused. people are free to have sex with multiple geek tragedy Jul 2015 #70

People should be free to marry who they want whenever they want as long as they're all adult. craigmatic Jul 2015 #72

so you think incestuous marriages should be recognized and blessed by the geek tragedy Jul 2015 #74

so we're comparing incest to poly now? craigmatic Jul 2015 #81

Consenting adults is not an automatic discussion ender kcr Jul 2015 #128

Marriage is a man made institution that we change as we see fit. If the polys get their message craigmatic Jul 2015 #135

Because it's a man made institution, polys have to get their way? kcr Jul 2015 #139

No they should get their way because of fairness, love and humanity. craigmatic Jul 2015 #141

Jesus. No one is going around the world. asturias31 Jul 2015 #209

It is telling others how to live when we get involved good or bad. Nobody does that to us. craigmatic Jul 2015 #217

If I go to Iran, they most certainly tell asturias31 Jul 2015 #218

Yes people do it to Americans WHO GO THERE. Nobody does that to Americans here hell we'd be craigmatic Jul 2015 #221

Those "traditional cultural practices" asturias31 Jul 2015 #204

As far as women's rights are concerned, yes. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #54

Who said anything about women's rights? I'm just saying we shouldn't stop any adult from marrying craigmatic Jul 2015 #60

so you perceive gender equality and GLBT rights as a white person's issue? nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #63

No just an example of us thinking our way is better so we should make the rest of the world craigmatic Jul 2015 #71

So, in your book the North engaged in cultural imperialism by stripping the geek tragedy Jul 2015 #73

Actually the south shot first. Iraq and the Saudis asked for our help against ISIS and I keep craigmatic Jul 2015 #85

We shouldn't "go around the world and tell asturias31 Jul 2015 #207

You have got to be fucking kidding me. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #66

There is the difference between polygamy and polyamorous WDIM Jul 2015 #62

So is this a new round-about way to tell people to fuck off? snooper2 Jul 2015 #40

People are free to alert on the OP, somehow I suspect they geek tragedy Jul 2015 #41

Yes it is. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #220

Just because you can say doesn't mean you're not wrong. n/t Chan790 Jul 2015 #166

Are you suggesting being gay is akin to wanting to have a dozen wives? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #35

We love who we love. Love is not a choice. WDIM Jul 2015 #51

It is possible to love more than 1 person at a time though. uppityperson Jul 2015 #55

marriage isn't about loving only one person, it's committing to one person. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #61

It is about legal protections for a partnership between 2 people. uppityperson Jul 2015 #94

that change in legal status is part of the commitment. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #97

I was born poly. Chan790 Jul 2015 #167

At least you didn't go straight to calling poly families "orgies" this time Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #78

Many polyamorous couples would be hurt and offended by that statement. ncjustice80 Jul 2015 #143

I am for marriage equality. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #145

If you oppose polyamorous marriages you oppose marriage equality.n/t ncjustice80 Jul 2015 #156

Nope. No discrimination, no equality issue. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #162

Thats the same argument conservatards make when they say a gay man can marry a lesbian. ncjustice80 Jul 2015 #223

being gay isn't a choice. polyamoury is geek tragedy Jul 2015 #224

That's ALSO what rethuglicans say about LGBT folks...n/t ncjustice80 Jul 2015 #225

It's actually true about polyamory geek tragedy Jul 2015 #226

No, you're not. No, we don't. No, it isn't. EOM. Chan790 Jul 2015 #168

+1000 n/t DeadLetterOffice Jul 2015 #176

Yes, you are. Yes, you do. Yes, it is. EOM. ncjustice80 Jul 2015 #222

I agree. Gov. needs to stay out of any type of consenting relationships period. nt Quixote1818 Jul 2015 #68

Marriage is something society promotes because pair bonding is good for individuals. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #111

nobody in this culture treestar Jul 2015 #161

The only problem is that asturias31 Jul 2015 #198

I look at it like this the government has no business telling adults what to do in the bedroom. craigmatic Jul 2015 #34

Guess what? Marriage equality was not about what we do in the bedroom, and it's a bit offensive Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #159

You remind me of this lady - rofl jtuck004 Jul 2015 #37

You're the one who's embraced the Pat Robertson argument geek tragedy Jul 2015 #46

"But it's not a civil rights issue." Chan790 Jul 2015 #169

I'm not threatened by it. Just annoyed by the meritless geek tragedy Jul 2015 #171

Again, another opinion of yours posited as fact. Chan790 Jul 2015 #201

Polyphobes? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #203

This message was self-deleted by its author asturias31 Jul 2015 #206

Can't help be reminded of people comparing transgender and "transracial." NuclearDem Jul 2015 #38

Aren't you comparing them in this OP? uppityperson Jul 2015 #42

No, I'm distinguishing them. I am not making the absurd argument geek tragedy Jul 2015 #44

Dogs have fur, fish have scales. I compared them, showed they are different. uppityperson Jul 2015 #45

yes, those implying/stating that the legalization of same-sex marriage implies geek tragedy Jul 2015 #48

Thanks for clarifying. It takes time but I appreciate it when people do as things aren't always as uppityperson Jul 2015 #50

had to edit the title down to fit in the subject line geek tragedy Jul 2015 #53

Comparisons show how things are similar. Contrasts show how things are different. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2015 #84

That is true also. Language is interesting, off to the dictionary to find...we are both correct uppityperson Jul 2015 #93

They cite the bible, but they ignore Solomon and Abraham The Blue Flower Jul 2015 #49

Yes indeed. ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #76

Good op. cwydro Jul 2015 #79

May I share a rather irrelevant but perhaps to some amusing story? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #86

A fine example of cognitive dissonance. Attacking bigots while defending your own bigotry. DesMoinesDem Jul 2015 #88

Just curious, if Polygamy takes place in countries that are the worst ones for gender equality hughee99 Jul 2015 #91

For your benefit, I will copy and paste point 3 which you apparently missed. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #95

Oddly enough, I read all of that and followed the link before I posted. hughee99 Jul 2015 #99

The studies concluded that polygamy drives increased crime, increased suffering geek tragedy Jul 2015 #100

So you're telling someone they can't marry the people they love hughee99 Jul 2015 #107

Yes, when things are bad for society we pass things called "laws" geek tragedy Jul 2015 #112

Right? Who knew we had so many strict libertarians on the board? n/t prayin4rain Jul 2015 #115

even in THIS country it has been bad for women and children restorefreedom Jul 2015 #140

What an awful OP Bonx Jul 2015 #92

I am very glad you dislike it, nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #96

Thank you so much for this post get the red out Jul 2015 #101

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #102

Yes indeed DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #103

India allows polygamy (that may be why its blue is different) Recursion Jul 2015 #104

Interesting, and depressing, geek tragedy Jul 2015 #106

The male infanticide is limited to one corner of one state Recursion Jul 2015 #108

Also, somewhere I've seen a ploygamy/infanticide correlation chart Recursion Jul 2015 #109

Marriage is important to society because pair-bonding is important to individuals. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #110

Bigotry against consenting adults who wish to marry is not my idea of a progressive value. nt kelly1mm Jul 2015 #113

you should really look up words like 'bigotry' geek tragedy Jul 2015 #114

BIGOTRY - stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's kelly1mm Jul 2015 #116

having opinions isn't bigotry, neither is pointing out geek tragedy Jul 2015 #118

"when certain practices are known to produce negative outcomes. " Bonx Jul 2015 #119

No, that's not where you heard that line of reasoning. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #120

Sorry, but your argument Bonx Jul 2015 #123

Yes, we are not radical libertarians. Question is why you're here geek tragedy Jul 2015 #124

You're clearly not a progressive. Bonx Jul 2015 #126

so, if a person doesn't support blowing up our legal system in order geek tragedy Jul 2015 #127

"so, if a person doesn't support blowing up our legal system in order Bonx Jul 2015 #130

Okay, so your problem is that you have the concept of radical glibertarianism geek tragedy Jul 2015 #132

He means incestuous relationships between parents NuclearDem Jul 2015 #133

exactly. consenting adults should be allowed to do anything! geek tragedy Jul 2015 #134

You're heavily confusing the idea of "This is gross" Kurska Jul 2015 #214

Polyamory is already legal. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #216

There is the objective consequence and there is the subjective reaction LanternWaste Jul 2015 #121

Learning to craft an argument Bonx Jul 2015 #125

Homophobic bullshit about samesex marriage is utterly unsubstantiated. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #131

That line of reasoning lancer78 Jul 2015 #194

you sound the same as the right wingers we have been fighting Nobel_Twaddle_III Jul 2015 #137

No, I sound like the counsel for plaintiffs in geek tragedy Jul 2015 #138

Articulating where the government has a legitimate legislative prayin4rain Jul 2015 #117

Thank you Hekate Jul 2015 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author nilesobek Jul 2015 #142

Thank you OP romanic Jul 2015 #144

"the ones that permit polygamy are also the most heinously homophobic". Is there not one other major WinkyDink Jul 2015 #146

Where monogamy has replaced polygamy geek tragedy Jul 2015 #147

People who don't properly compare same-sex marriage and polygamy need to fuck off BKH70041 Jul 2015 #150

Says you and Warren Jeffs. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #163

Yes, thanks for the post n/t TubbersUK Jul 2015 #151

I may not get applauds for this... tymorial Jul 2015 #152

I see this as number discrimination more than anything smiley Jul 2015 #153

Yes, they do. hunter Jul 2015 #154

I guarantee you almost no anti-polygamy law was ever written and passed..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #155

Palestinian law explicitly permits polygamy oberliner Jul 2015 #158

exactly it is backwards treestar Jul 2015 #160

I'm fine with polygamy. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #164

Yes, it is fine in theory. asturias31 Jul 2015 #196

A lot depends on what the legal framework will be for arguing polygamy Wella Jul 2015 #165

There's no way that courts are going to abolish monogamous marriage laws. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #172

People said the same 40 years ago--even 20--about gay marriage Wella Jul 2015 #174

The two situations are radically different. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #185

Thank you for making some relevant points. Wella Jul 2015 #189

Problem is, feminists HATE polygamy. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #190

That's a bit of a non sequitur, but I'll address it. Wella Jul 2015 #193

People who are unclear on the difference between "compare" and "equate" need to... Iggo Jul 2015 #170

People who want to deny the right of a woman and two men to marry need to fuck off. Vattel Jul 2015 #173

That right doesn't exist. It's as imaginary as geek tragedy Jul 2015 #175

see post 173 Vattel Jul 2015 #180

Okay, I denounce everyone who denies the right geek tragedy Jul 2015 #188

Why can I only rec this thread once? Nt LostOne4Ever Jul 2015 #177

You REALLY have a bug up about this issue, doncha? DeadLetterOffice Jul 2015 #178

If I believe an adult male who wants to marry his mom and dad should not have that right.... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #181

I'm not talking abouta guy who wants to marry his parents. DeadLetterOffice Jul 2015 #182

I don't think the poly people are scum... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #183

It's not bigotry, there is no prejudice, not even geek tragedy Jul 2015 #187

You're right, advocating for a social structure that treats women like property NuclearDem Jul 2015 #197

It's sad how easily some of us allow ourselves to be used./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #179

Kick and rec. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #184

Yeah! what's up with that! Cha Jul 2015 #186

I can't freaking believe asturias31 Jul 2015 #191

A-fucking-men. JTFrog Jul 2015 #192

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #199

This times a whole lot DiverDave Jul 2015 #200

They don't need to shop that bigotry at a liberal/progressive website, that's for sure. nt MADem Jul 2015 #202

What is amazing is that like any troll they baited some innocent fish./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #205

Very good analysis. Thank you. jwirr Jul 2015 #208

Absolutely, and the agenda also includes an opportunity to bash Muslims. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #210

This is wher it gets tricky asturias31 Jul 2015 #213

There are many aspects to many religions which people participate in willingly, where there are Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #215

Especially when posting a map that highlights mainly Muslim nations oberliner Jul 2015 #219

I thought about the issue some more... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #211

DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2015 #212