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cthulu2016

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Sat May 19, 2012, 11:51 AM May 2012

The British Prime Minister is one of the Stupidest People Alive [View all]

Deficit reduction and growth are not alternatives. Delivering the first is vital in securing the second. If markets don’t believe you are serious about dealing with your debts, your interest rates rocket and your economy shrinks.

http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/pm-economy-speech/



This guy seems to actually believe this shit.

This is a very typical presentation of ideological bullshit. State a readily disprovable ideological fantasy followed immediately by a tautology. Then if anyone disagrees with you you can accuse them of disagreeing with the tautology, and being obviously crazy.

It is surely true that "If markets don’t believe you are serious about dealing with your debts, your interest rates rocket." But to a bond purchaser "being serious about dealing with your debts" simply means having the intention and means to pay your debts, as scheduled.

Deficit spending is not synonymous with having no intention of paying off your bonds.

US bond yields are, as I write this, the lowest they have ever been. Ever. E-V-E-R. And our deficit is about the largest it has ever been during the last century except during WWII.

For a nation offering zero fear of default (like the UK and US) the confidence factor is already essentially maxed out. Further reduction of interest rates can only come from decreased economic expectations.

So in a sense Cameron is right. If austerity wrecks your economy then it depresses interest rates. True. Bond buyers are betting against growth. Enter a depression and watch the magic of low interest rates... they will plummet.

Why doesn't Cameron just say what he really means...

Low interest rates are good for economic growth. Interest rates are never lower than during a depression. Thus a depression is good for economic growth. QED.


Stupid, stupid man.
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You are unfortunately all too correct LeftishBrit May 2012 #1
Yes, George Osborne is an amazing idiot. cthulu2016 May 2012 #2
I bitterly regret voting for Clegg Prophet 451 May 2012 #11
Funny how the right has gone from deficits-do-not-matter to deficits-worse-than-terrorism. tabatha May 2012 #3
Absolutely AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #8
Not stupid, this is boilerplate Neo-Liberal Corporatist ideology. Odin2005 May 2012 #4
Yes, they want "austerity" because it benefits their pocket books. nt ladjf May 2012 #5
Well, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, mr blur May 2012 #6
Holding office doesn't require intelligence nor honesty. See Bachmann, Palin, et cetera. Gregorian May 2012 #7
His job prior to politics was Mutiny In Heaven May 2012 #9
He's not stupid, he's evil Prophet 451 May 2012 #10
They often go hand in hand cthulu2016 May 2012 #12
He will NOT dismantle the NHS FunkyLeprechaun May 2012 #17
He's started handing it over to private companies already Prophet 451 May 2012 #19
To be fair, the internal market has been part of the English NHS for years. MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #20
True, but... Prophet 451 May 2012 #26
It's not for me to dictate NHS policy in England. MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #27
Of course it's ideological Prophet 451 May 2012 #28
He also went to university for free. That didn't stop him upping the fees. LeftishBrit May 2012 #33
Why is this post being taken seriously? FunkyLeprechaun May 2012 #13
Perhaps you're a conservative who favors marriage equality cthulu2016 May 2012 #14
I'm actually not a conservative FunkyLeprechaun May 2012 #16
Cameron's cuts have hurt Mutiny In Heaven May 2012 #15
Cameron's cuts have hurt EVERYONE FunkyLeprechaun May 2012 #18
I apologize. I shouldn't have been political earlier cthulu2016 May 2012 #22
That's a myth Prophet 451 May 2012 #23
Gordon Brown did NOT leave that note LeftishBrit May 2012 #34
"disproportionately affects those with mental health issues" Prophet 451 May 2012 #24
I agree that all our political party leaders are relatively liberal on social issues LeftishBrit May 2012 #35
I think that is the general consensus about Cameron. He is merely a tool who does what sabrina 1 May 2012 #21
I question some of your assumptions Prometheus Bound May 2012 #25
Probably disorganized, but i'll try cthulu2016 May 2012 #29
Thanks for the very thorough reply. Prometheus Bound May 2012 #30
So deficit reduction produces confidence? It's important that markets are confident? Cali_Democrat May 2012 #31
URRK! cthulu2016 May 2012 #32
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