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kelliekat44

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55. That's because they don't know any better because no one talks to them. Jesse Jackson

Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:51 PM

Oct 2015

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did quite well in Appalachia when he ran..considering. He went out there and talked to them and championed their issues.

Problem is you can't get to any of the candidates, including Bernie Sanders, to give them some ideas about how to convert these people. They are like everyone else...they want jobs and a way to take care of their families. They only know coal. It's up to our side to educate them about other issues.

I wrote a lengthy pleas to Dem candidates with ideas about how to address some of their concerns but couldn't any place to send the info. Every time I logged on to one of our candidates sites to offer up some suggestions I was faced with a donation request and couldn't get any further.

All of our candidates would do well to put up a site where suggestion could be received without having to contribute money...some folks have great ideas but no money.

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Why the Left Isn’t Talking About Rural American Poverty [View all] KamaAina Oct 2015 OP

Must read. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #1

Around here (Appalachia), the rural poor are right-wing Republicans. Odd, but true. SharonAnn Oct 2015 #51

That's because they don't know any better because no one talks to them. Jesse Jackson kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #55

Well, there's also the fact that our party walked away from unions and labor. X_Digger Oct 2015 #92

given the choice between... lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #58

You barely hear politicians on the left talk about poverty at all. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #2

And when you do, it's John Edwards. KamaAina Oct 2015 #3

The last time I heard "poverty" mentioned in the 2008 campaign, bvar22 Oct 2015 #9

It hit us pretty hard at DU KamaAina Oct 2015 #10

Yes. I know. I was disgusted, bvar22 Oct 2015 #12

John Edwards was a co-sponsor of the IWR. He also stood on stages and preached about his own Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #14

Who else said that very same thing and WORSE, bvar22 Oct 2015 #15

actually edwards was worse since he brought himself up as being better JI7 Oct 2015 #41

Quibbling over very minor perceptions. bvar22 Oct 2015 #80

not really. edwards is a hypocrite JI7 Oct 2015 #87

Not sure what other people have to do with John Edwards being a self inflating hypocrisy balloon. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #88

I didn't call for him to be drummed out of the race KamaAina Oct 2015 #16

Were JFK and FDR also "sleazeballs? bvar22 Oct 2015 #21

Sorry, I don't go back quite that far KamaAina Oct 2015 #29

Why does that matter? bvar22 Oct 2015 #83

Marriage vows are not at issue here. KamaAina Oct 2015 #84

they didn't claim to be morally better as edwards did JI7 Oct 2015 #44

Neither did they father a child out of wedlock. KamaAina Oct 2015 #47

worse was denying the child was his JI7 Oct 2015 #50

"Billie Jean" should have been his campaign song KamaAina Oct 2015 #64

Elizabeth's cancer returned in 2007 TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #68

"serious" candidates reddread Oct 2015 #71

I think John E. was a total shit. I regret my initial support of him andmy continued support CTyankee Oct 2015 #38

I know, I know KamaAina Oct 2015 #48

I still don't regret supporting him hfojvt Oct 2015 #56

But then why support a candidate that blatantly betrays that platform? CTyankee Oct 2015 #69

You cannot betray a platform hfojvt Oct 2015 #73

But did he really? I supported the platform he said he was running on, too... CTyankee Oct 2015 #75

Edwards joined a hedge fund to learn about poverty. And what has he done about it JI7 Oct 2015 #40

I don't remember that being the reason hfojvt Oct 2015 #54

Then your not paying attention...... Historic NY Oct 2015 #59

Edwards was my guy. I don't hate him now or then. He talked about the 99 % before OCCUPY WALL STRE SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #60

his wife? HE TRIED TO SCREW US! reddread Oct 2015 #70

It matters to us because it speaks to John Edward's character. NobodyHere Oct 2015 #85

They seem to be deeply afraid of using the word POOR. ananda Oct 2015 #49

Whereas the Right talks about those lazy, underserving schucks with their hands in the Hortensis Oct 2015 #4

You are confused. Hortensis Oct 2015 #5

+1 eShirl Oct 2015 #74

Indeed, anything lower than middle class seems too impolite for public speaking n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #8

The poor in the cities actually have it better than the rural poor. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #6

I think you are correct that cities have more resources for jwirr Oct 2015 #24

Dunno, seems about even Warpy Oct 2015 #52

Very familiar to me. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #76

K & R historylovr Oct 2015 #7

keep voting for republicans nad nothing much will change nt msongs Oct 2015 #11

medicare for all, college for all, strengthening social security, raising the minimum wage, Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #13

The rural poor are one of America's cursed groups AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #17

"Especially the rednecks. They are too stupid to vote for their own interests" CBGLuthier Oct 2015 #67

The left nowadays is primarily concentrated in large cities. Why would they care about rural poverty? AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #18

I think that this attitude toward rural poor started when this jwirr Oct 2015 #25

Small family farms certainly don't offer enough for the New Democrat to be concerned with but the liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #45

You are right there. They are as much a corporation as the jwirr Oct 2015 #46

The "Intelligence Level" is not the problem. bvar22 Oct 2015 #82

Poverty, schmoverty. They have white privilege. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #19

Right! The only white privilege a poor white family has is that jwirr Oct 2015 #26

Owning houses via generational transfer is a privilege that has been largely reserved loyalsister Oct 2015 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #32

yes they do. they don't have to deal with thug cops the way JI7 Oct 2015 #43

You haven't lived in many poor white areas, have you? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #63

Depends on what you define as Left. If you mean the Democratic Party then yes. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #20

The rural poor seem to always vote against their own self interest. Vinca Oct 2015 #22

Chicken and egg; what have the Democrats done for them? frizzled Oct 2015 #23

I am one of the rural poor. Social Security, Food Stamps, jwirr Oct 2015 #27

they ARE voting their interest if their interest is god guns etc JI7 Oct 2015 #42

I hadn't thought of that. Guns, guns, guns. Vinca Oct 2015 #78

sometimes i think bernie might with his income inequality stuff....but no he doesn't go there dembotoz Oct 2015 #30

True he could say the words poverty more but his policy positions of single payer health care, liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #33

Entrenched conservatism. moondust Oct 2015 #31

This. Do the rural poor vote for liberals? treestar Oct 2015 #37

Short answer: Because Bobby was slain. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #34

ding ding ding ding Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #72

It's probably best that they don't at this point Lee-Lee Oct 2015 #35

K&R nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #36

See, I don't feel this way at all. I feel poverty of any race of Americans is a disgrace. CTyankee Oct 2015 #39

Well said. Rural poor have been abandoned for decades, many turned right but not all. appalachiablue Oct 2015 #53

think the gop politics of fear would resonate well with them dembotoz Oct 2015 #57

Good points esp. about much needed rural broadband, nothing's been done for them since LBJ's appalachiablue Oct 2015 #61

The hub of rural broadband could be in Chattanooga KamaAina Oct 2015 #62

While the article makes a couple of points, it is very thin on facts. A better article is here: greatlaurel Oct 2015 #65

Why are they more likely to support Hillary Clinton than Bernie Sanders JI7 Oct 2015 #66

Live rural, work urban gwheezie Oct 2015 #77

We live very rural too, with a very low population density. bvar22 Oct 2015 #81

I'm where you are. gwheezie Oct 2015 #86

While the article makes a couple of points, it is very thin on facts. A better article is here: greatlaurel Oct 2015 #79

First post, after 5 years of lurking Kentuckymtnboy Oct 2015 #89

Great first post! KamaAina Oct 2015 #90

Thanks for your response YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #91