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In reply to the discussion: Susan Sarandon: "all I know is that I just can’t live with myself if I don’t say something." [View all]Raster
(20,998 posts)77. Bullshit! Bush*/Cheney* were NOT consequences of Nader.
Last edited Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:31 PM - Edit history (1)
Bullshit!!! What about the tens and tens and tens of thousands of lawful, legal presumed Democrat voters removed from the Florida voter roles by Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris that specifically targeted Democratic-leaning minority precincts long before the first ballot for ANYONE was ever cast. You don't think they had anything to do with the Florida electoral debacle?What about Florida Secretary of State, Katherine Harris, Co-Chairperson for the Committee to Elect Bush*/Cheney* in Florida, running the statewide campaign to elect Bush* from her Secretary of State Tallahassee office, and time-and-time again ruling every electoral nuance in Cheney*/Bush* favor... You don't think she had anything to do with the Florida 2000 election results?
What about the outright voter intimidation in Democratic Black and Hispanic precincts on election day by Florida State Police, encouraging minorities to "move along" without casting their ballots... You don't think they had anything to do with the Florida electoral results?
What about the notorious butterfly ballot - conceived by a Democrat-for-a-day County Clerk that allowed for over 3000 votes for rabid anti-semite Pat Buchanan in a predominately, elderly JEWISH precinct. Even Buchanan admitted there was most likely a mistake, and he did not believe he received those votes in that precinct. You don't think that had anything to do with the Florida 2000 election results?
What about the notorious black box voting machines - manufactured by two staunchly republican-owned interests - that were designed to be non-paper trail verifiable, whose "secret operating code" was ALWAYS unavailable for neutral third-party inspection, AND that were actually witnessed by impartial observers over and over again switching votes from Albert Gore to George fucking Bush*... You don't think that had anything to do with the Florida 2000 election results?
And what do you think about the usually accurate as hell Exit Polls that showed Albert Gore handily beating George Bush*? You don't think there was any problem there?
And finally, what about a brutally partisan, republican-majority SCOTUS that clearly had no authority to halt a legitimate Florida recount, and that basically stated in their "shall not set precedent" miscarriage of a majority ruling that - and I paraphrase - If the recount showed that Bush*/Cheney* did not win, it would be hard for them to govern. You really don't think that had anything to do with putting Cheney*/Bush* in the White House? All Nader, huh?
So seriously, you want to throw Florida 2000 at the feet of Ralph Nader?
Every time you or anyone else repeat the patently false and utterly dishonest bullshit meme that Florida 2000 was Nader's fault, you basically do the evil scumbag's work for them.
Ralph Nader may be guilty of many things, but putting George W. Bush* in the White House IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
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Susan Sarandon: "all I know is that I just can’t live with myself if I don’t say something." [View all]
closeupready
Mar 2016
OP
I believe the ridiculous demonization of Sarandon by Hillary supporters is because, as a strong
djean111
Mar 2016
#1
I was just thinking, this morning, that this is why the Dixie Chicks were demonized -
djean111
Mar 2016
#8
Nothing to do with her being a woman, but everything to do with her being a tinfoilnaderite. nt
onehandle
Mar 2016
#9
Nader ran 16 years ago. Hillary opposed marriage equality until 3 years ago. If the one is a
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#12
All are true except #5. Gore ran away from Clinton and his record the entire election cycle.
TeamPooka
Mar 2016
#73
It's all about the fact Gore couldn't win his damn home state. If he had won TN then he wins clean
TeamPooka
Mar 2016
#99
I'll concede to the loss in TN (that I did note) but the Nader stuff is still BS. eom
PufPuf23
Mar 2016
#102
I did the same thing to vote against Reagan in the 190 primaries, the switched back to D
tblue37
Mar 2016
#141
If FLA had played out the election protocol and the USSC not awarded FLA to GWB,
PufPuf23
Apr 2016
#163
Welcome to my ignore list. Shame, cuz you've had some good posts in the past.
beerandjesus
Apr 2016
#184
Gore had already won the popular vote. It was the electoral vote that mattered and 60k votes
Erose999
Apr 2016
#181
That theory has been debunked so many times. Catch up. Nader only affected issues
bjobotts
Apr 2016
#156
Consequences of voting for Hillary include the Iraq war, DOMA, the PATRIOT ACT, etc.
Erose999
Apr 2016
#180
Those are lies, he never said the quotes from 1982 and 2006. My god you people are shameless.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#96
Those have been debunked, you'll need to do a lot better than that.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#111
The Twitter account where you got that meme has a picture of Bernie in a Nazi uniform.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#98
You don't know where I got the meme's. Just because they MAY HAVE BEEN posted there
Fla Dem
Mar 2016
#107
Oh, I said there was room... not that they could hog the whole damn thing!
beerandjesus
Mar 2016
#38
Nader's popularity, like Sanders, is a result of the Democratic party disenfranchising its base.
LiberalLovinLug
Mar 2016
#112
Exactly, they've been attacking her for months, ever since she endorsed Bernie.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#10
You can't criticize a Democratic politician from the left, but misogyny from the left is uber cool.
merrily
Mar 2016
#152
She disagrees with things that Hillary has done, and things Hillary stands for.
djean111
Mar 2016
#19
Let me know when anyone in Hillary's camp apologizes for the vile spew from David Brock
djean111
Mar 2016
#24
This thread has been pure gold for beefing up that ignore list, hasn't it?
beerandjesus
Apr 2016
#186
Hillary has quit calling people deadbeats during this campaign, I think. Perhaps you could too?
jtuck004
Mar 2016
#64
Deadbeat? Has Hillary paid for security at the Des Moines concert on Oct 24 that she
Autumn
Mar 2016
#89
Um.... I'm a supporter of Bernie Sanders, and I take full responsiblity for
RiverNoord
Mar 2016
#101
They ridicule her because they don't measure up and have to take shots at her. It's typical behavior
ThePhilosopher04
Mar 2016
#51
There are a lot of people not skewered by pointy auto bumpers and sliced up by windshields,
jtuck004
Mar 2016
#50
Hillary surrogate Angela Bassett, film acting peer of Sarandon's is worth about $30 million and that
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#18
Because the world waits with baited breath to hear the next gem of wisdom from
Surya Gayatri
Mar 2016
#17
I support Susan Sarandon, she wasn't playing along with the corporate media conglomerate's
Uncle Joe
Mar 2016
#56
I believe she was being genuine when she said women who have abortions should be punished
leftofcool
Mar 2016
#132
Please Recognize Your Privilege If You Can Afford Eight Years of Hillary Clinton and the Status Quo
Fast Walker 52
Mar 2016
#90
Susan Sarandon is honest, real, an all-round amazing person. We need more people like her.
reformist2
Mar 2016
#149
The way they are attacking her makes me think they hate her because she's a woman
B Calm
Apr 2016
#176