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In reply to the discussion: To Dems pushing Fear at Progressives...I mean this constructively. PLEASE, STOP! [View all]baldguy
(36,649 posts)70. Fear of Trump is legitimate.
More so, if so-called "progressives" don't get off their ass and vote for the progressive candidate, Hillary Clinton.
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To Dems pushing Fear at Progressives...I mean this constructively. PLEASE, STOP! [View all]
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
OP
I think Donald Trump is fearful. I'm not going to apologize for recommending fear.
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#2
That's fine. Find me someone more fearful as prez than Donald Trump and I'm on board.
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#6
Um..ok, not sure what your point is with that quote but- you're happy, I'm happy.
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#9
You were asserting the virtues of using fear as a motivator, I pointed out Democratic
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#37
Was I? See I thought I was pointing out a genuine fear that I and others have re: Trump.
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#43
Dollars to donuts we see this either in video form or repeated in a speech at the convention.
Arkana
Jul 2016
#138
No one is asking you to...maybe just don't use it on people for whom it won't work.
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#10
So do these people wear like shirts that say, "Don't scare me" or something??
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#11
Maybe on DU they have avatars or other indicators of their progressive nature.
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#12
You're wanting to get into something other than how to message progressives
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#39
Am I? See I think its valid for people to express their fears and I think its valid
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#48
This thread was set in place as a counter to a DU thread, why would I contact the campaign?
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#49
Because you seem to espouse a type of communication with progressive people, or
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#50
I have every confidence that the political scientists with HRC's campaign know this
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#55
You know what? I hate to break it to you but 'Sanders supporters' is a mirage.
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#29
I recall after 911 all the fear people had. Given what people knew, it was justified.
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#91
By "worked", do you mean "left Clinton massively ahead in the polls"? N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jul 2016
#13
I mean particularly whatever works to induce the fearful motivation in them the project
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#19
I don't care what side anybody is on, but if the human traffic cone is elected,
world wide wally
Jul 2016
#14
I wasn't dividing them so much as asking Dems trying to reach progressives
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#21
Anyone who is paying attention--even remotely, should not need convincing at any level.
riversedge
Jul 2016
#36
Really. If this shit doesn't convince them, they are just trolling. It is just not credible.
Squinch
Jul 2016
#80
It may be, but that's beside the point as there is that FEAR thread running in this forum
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#40
Then don't use it. Others disagree with you. They will use it. Stop telling them not to.
Squinch
Jul 2016
#82
Well to be fair, they do suffer occasionally via history. And some are even innocent.
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#81
Respectfully I must disagree. They don't suffer occasionally, they suffer routinely.
arthritisR_US
Jul 2016
#83
Your emotions are valid. But they may not motivate others as they do you.
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#63
I think much of what you say is true. IMO voting Dem still has pro-Bernie angles
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#46
Progressives are dreamers? "They are attracted to hope, and hope for things that they desire"?
TheProgressive
Jul 2016
#44
I'd entertain arguing about the Progressive label elsewhere, but it's not the point of this thread
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#47
It is time to unite and defeat Trump in November, let's focus on Electing
Thinkingabout
Jul 2016
#45
How do you know Trump isn't Hitler? That's how hitler happend, by people not realizing they should
TeamPooka
Jul 2016
#54
The topic is about how to persuade Sanders/progressive voters who orient differently
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#58
Well, you see, but that confuses me...are you saying that progressives need to be...
Moonwalk
Jul 2016
#62
I'm saying the FEAR argument oft presented on DU to persuade Sanders/progressive voters
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#65
I think fear of a Trump presidency is a legitimate fear, and will motivate a lot of voters.
tclambert
Jul 2016
#56
If you don't fear trump you are stupid. Saying that we shouldn't point out the appropriateness
Squinch
Jul 2016
#84
I think a large part of the Democratic Party haven't even heard of the term offense.
Scruffy1
Jul 2016
#90
Fear tactics are used in effort to control what people will do. I reject those efforts.
CobaltBlue
Jul 2016
#66
You still don't get it. No one is trying to persuade Sanders voters. Sanders voters have already
Squinch
Jul 2016
#135
Progressives do not try and divide people into groups to be monitored and yelled at.
Rex
Jul 2016
#72
Uh, because crazy people are on TV endorsing an even crazier Trump person??
MichiganVote
Jul 2016
#79
Currently, there's a supreme court opening and 3 justices are between 77 and 82 years old.
ecstatic
Jul 2016
#88
Let's use is as Sanders supporters do this was motivated by a FEAR thread to them
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#99
If "progressives" are meh about a Trump win, I question their political self-labeling.
Starry Messenger
Jul 2016
#97
i have posted throughout the thread that my fear of a Trump presidency is my motivating factor
etherealtruth
Jul 2016
#105
Yes, but conistent with the political research, the Trump supporters are quite conservative.
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#115
IMO, fear leads to a desire to reduce fear, even when fear is understandable.
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#116
Let's be honest: Any remaining "progressive" holdouts aren't going to be swayed by anything we say.
Skinner
Jul 2016
#108
I am not at all sure that's true. I think that's a great excuse for discarding any interest in them
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#111
Salesmen also fail when they waste their time trying to sell to someone who isn't persuadable.
Skinner
Jul 2016
#119
Maybe your message doesn't belong in this thread but over in that FEAR-suasion thread
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#122
No one is asking you to placate anyone. Certainly not the people you are committed to demean.
HereSince1628
Jul 2016
#121
The purpose of your post is that you want attention, and I've wasted enough here already.
BobbyDrake
Jul 2016
#123
Is Trump -REALLY- more scary than the horrible, murderous, militant defenders of racist apartheid ?
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2016
#120