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64. Is that not the normal definition of "win"?

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #63)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:59 PM

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When was the last time the US "won" a war? [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 OP

Going out on a limb and say WWII. dhol82 Dec 2016 #1

True discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #4

And a profitable clusterfuck for the MIC! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #11

Totally! dhol82 Dec 2016 #13

Yeah, it feels like the 60's again, we will have to take to the streets. This guy RKP5637 Dec 2016 #16

I just worry that with the republicans controlling all three branches we are truly fucked. dhol82 Dec 2016 #20

The avenues to get the government back under control are closing. We've not lived through RKP5637 Dec 2016 #36

First Gulf War. Problem for some was not nearly enough blood Hortensis Dec 2016 #33

Grenada 1983? n/t malaise Dec 2016 #2

Yes, but we didn't start that one... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #5

We were lucky HassleCat Dec 2016 #51

You would first need to define a "war". ManiacJoe Dec 2016 #3

Obviously the bigger the conflict, the more of a war it is. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #9

WW-II liberal N proud Dec 2016 #6

But now... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #34

Fear used as a tool to build support for expansion of a military industrial complex liberal N proud Dec 2016 #38

Intelligence agencies should be limited to providing intelligence... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #40

WWII benld74 Dec 2016 #7

WWII. muntrv Dec 2016 #8

There are huge MIC profits with these endless wars, and then all of the people employed RKP5637 Dec 2016 #10

It's grown far beyond the MIC discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #35

The War on Intelligence?? Bleacher Creature Dec 2016 #12

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #37

I would have to argue as far as "Winning" Russia contributed more to doc03 Dec 2016 #14

Well, We Would Disagree, Doc ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author doc03 Dec 2016 #46

Would we have 'won' the war if Germany had conquered England and Russia? dhol82 Dec 2016 #52

Safe to say, WWII was a group (Allied, you might say) effort. cemaphonic Dec 2016 #57

We never invaded Normandy unitl June 6th 1944 10 months before Germany surenderd. The USSR had lost doc03 Dec 2016 #60

The RW still claims we won Vietnam except for the media costing us victory BSdetect Dec 2016 #15

It is all about the definition of "win". ManiacJoe Dec 2016 #24

"We were winning when I left." pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #32

"Sounds like a personal problem to me" discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #39

So does Howard Zinn. Bucky Dec 2016 #55

Define win sarisataka Dec 2016 #17

Without a specific aim should we be fighting at all? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #41

A war without an aim sarisataka Dec 2016 #61

Persian Gulf BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #18

First Gulf War Skinner Dec 2016 #19

We sided with our allies against Saddam discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #42

Your question was when was the last time the US won a war. Skinner Dec 2016 #43

Agreed, the primary objective was achieved discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #47

WWII onecaliberal Dec 2016 #21

My brothers x girlfriend MFM008 Dec 2016 #22

Greneda n/t jaysunb Dec 2016 #23

Another vote for the Gulf War 1991. ManiacJoe Dec 2016 #25

I'll agree we didn't lose other than lives and money discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #63

Is that not the normal definition of "win"? ManiacJoe Dec 2016 #64

Sure, I'm just not impressed by a "win" which included deaths... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #67

There is no doubt that many things were mishandled, ManiacJoe Dec 2016 #68

We've won several. It's winning the following Peace we suck at. Ready4Change Dec 2016 #26

IMHO, it's not starting them we really suck at. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #50

Winning a war Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #27

War on drugs isn't even a 'war' discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #49

I agree Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #59

The last time we won a war... Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #28

Thank Dawg someone finally mentioned the actual Constitutional declaration of war. Efilroft Sul Dec 2016 #66

Congress did finally designate Vietnam as a 'limited conventional' war discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #69

WW2 workinclasszero Dec 2016 #29

November 8,2016 Rincewind Dec 2016 #30

damn you Bucky Dec 2016 #54

Never. Are_grits_groceries Dec 2016 #31

That's a rather valid way to look at it discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #48

Viewed on entirely its own, I'd say the Gulf War. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #44

Clinton won the Kosovo campaign pretty decisively. Didn't lose a single troop. Bucky Dec 2016 #53

By the traditional definition, we won the Iraq War handily. cemaphonic Dec 2016 #56

Good point. krispos42 Dec 2016 #65

We won the Civil War. McCamy Taylor Dec 2016 #58

The "we" you refer to evolved from those who fought... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #62