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calimary

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39. I heard a discussion about this on the radio this morning. A bullying expert was the guest.
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:01 PM
Jun 2012

He said that, in his opinion, reality TV has a lot to do with the mood of the country these days. That producers and directors encourage anti-social behavior and bad attitudes and acting out and even fisticuffs and other physically-violent encounters because it makes for great TV and great ratings. That may indeed be part of it.

Like, for example, I wonder how many teenage girls assume that if they get knocked up during high school, well, somebody'll just give 'em a reality show and that'll solve everything! And they'll be FAMOUS!!!! And they'll make lots of MONEY!!!! YAY! Just like those pathetic miscreants on there now - I think one of 'em (some creature named Amber I think?) even got sent to jail or something. I do know for a fact that this was indeed something the Octomom assumed. She figured because she had a veritable litter of babies that she'd be able to support them just fine because somebody was surely going to sign her to a reality show! I remember reading this and really getting pissed off about it. She pointed to the whole "Jon and Kate plus Eight" show and figured - "well, I can top THEM! I'm gonna get signed any day now, 'cause if eight is good, 14 is BETTER! Fame and fortune here I come!" And what happened? NOTHING. She's rotting in some cheap suburb out here somewhere and just barely getting by, with all those kids running wild all over the place and poorly supervised and few if any friends or others to help her and she's forced to do porn and stuff to make a few bucks just to be able to go to the grocery store. I feel very sorry for the kids involved, since they never asked for this. But I don't have much sympathy for her. Reality shows are like fairy godmothers. They're not around every corner and very few people actually meet one, much less gain anything from such a meeting. And they don't just magically show up simply because one THINKS one is deserving. That only happens in the movies.

There's so much out there now in society at large that encourages and rewards bad behavior, and stiffs and scorns good behavior. The good guys are usually depicted as nerds or dolts or losers - the ones you laugh and sneer at. The bad guys are the cool hip edgy, even sexy ones who break the rules and cut the corners and beat up on people and terrorize and intimidate others, and get away with stuff. And that's looked on, in general, as something good, positive, admirable, worthy of imitation. I mean, look at Rihanna and how she just still gushes over that Chris Brown asshole - and he's a frickin' BATTERER! But it's so outlaw that it's just cool! And those assholes all grow up to be mitt romney and george w. bush. Except that most of 'em don't have that kind of money so they're just plain ASSHOLES.

Used to be I didn't like seeing the media get blamed every time something went wrong in society. Full disclosure here, I spent all of my career in the media as a reporter, news anchor, interviewer, talk show host, writer, producer, and sometimes engineer. But I no longer feel that way - that the media isn't to blame. It is. Especially since there are so many kinds of media, information brokers and brokerages if you will. Information could be factual or fictitious, print or broadcast or cable or web, news or entertainment, but it's information. Period. It's all input. Input coming at your brain, your eyeballs, your ears, your skin, your mouth, any way in that will cause a reaction or response.

And I think the over-arching messaging that seeps in through the pores is a get-rich-quick, confrontational, gimme-gimme, make-me-an-overnight-star-'cause-I-don't-wanna-have-to-work-that-hard-for-it, in-yer-face, stir something up, bad-is-better, raunchier-is-better, nastier-is-better, meaner-is-better, sneakier-is-better, provoke merely for the sake of provoking, crime does indeed pay - and pay BIGTIME, dumber-is-better, and certainly richer-is-better (and it doesn't matter how you got rich, either!). I think that's delivered via all kinds of in-flow, whether it's "American Idol" or Howard Stern or Chris Brown or "South Park" or the Kardashians or "Girls Gone Wild" or whatever sports bad boy it is this week or "Apprentice" or whatever-the-hell it is, ALL of that pushes it farther down the pop culture sewer pipe. When I was a reporter, I had a supervisor who wanted that envelope pushed until we ripped it up. His day was MADE if he'd driven into work in the morning and heard something used on his local raunchy "Morning Zoo" radio show that turned out to be ours. That was like the proverbial apple a day that kept the doctor away. You were golden all day long if something you'd left overnight for morning drive was used by Howard Stern or any of 'em - now I suppose it'd be Ryan Seacrest also.

It's what turned the cast asshole in any given show from the negative example into the hero. Eddie Haskell was never to be looked up to on "Leave It to Beaver." NOWADAYS? He'd be the freakin' HERO! He'd get his own spin-off series! His own action figure! His own video game! They'd give him a recording contract and a development deal and you name it. Then he'd become like Ryan Seacrest spinning off himself and other rude, nasty, in-yer-face or weasely, sneaky-ass, what-shitty-and-near-criminal-behavior-can-I-get-away-with characters into a host of reality and other shows ad nauseam, and he'd be an obscenely rich man.

That avalanche dumps all over us every day. I think over time it has, and has had, an effect on society in general, the pop culture, and the national zeitgeist if you will. Just my opinion. It's an industry I used to work in, and cover (AND apologize for), and I think it carries a lot of the blame.

Other bullies don't grow out of it. Just look at Mitt Romney catbyte Jun 2012 #1
Not everyone is Mitt Romney. antigone382 Jun 2012 #5
It should be formed enough not to do what I Love a Mystery Jun 2012 #18
I certainly don't think it's acceptable, and it shouldn't be normal. antigone382 Jun 2012 #32
Your post will fall on deaf ears here alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #2
Sorry, but most of the kids who bullied me in elementary and junior high school went coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #3
I hope you're wrong but perhaps you are right Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #4
I heard a discussion about this on the radio this morning. A bullying expert was the guest. calimary Jun 2012 #39
I thought about posting something to this effect, but decided not to bother. antigone382 Jun 2012 #6
Our society is so punishment-centric lapislzi Jun 2012 #8
don't do it Eksess Jun 2012 #23
I never said they shouldn't be held responsible. antigone382 Jun 2012 #31
They only "grow out of it" if they become a victim themselves jeff47 Jun 2012 #7
Comments are saying this isn't actually the kid Tsiyu Jun 2012 #9
I'm not sure if there is any way to know for sure if it is the kid Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #11
A lot of the comments are probably from other kids who Tsiyu Jun 2012 #16
South Park???? you can't be fucking serious Eksess Jun 2012 #24
in answer to your question,,no, I never consumed paint-ships before or after 1978 Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #25
They can be cruel treestar Jun 2012 #10
The point isn't that this behavior is normal or healthy or something to be excused. antigone382 Jun 2012 #14
I behave better now than I did when I was 13. immoderate Jun 2012 #12
The brains of kids this age are not fully formed. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #13
thanks for that link..that program on the teenage brain is really interesting Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #38
And this was not the first video these kids had made proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #15
No sympathy from me. I Love a Mystery Jun 2012 #17
Sounds like agent46 Jun 2012 #21
I think it's disrespectful to those actually lynched I Love a Mystery Jun 2012 #40
I will agree that the behavior of these children was inexcusable and it was good that they were Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #41
You're a highly moral person agent46 Jun 2012 #42
You know, out of the two of us I Love a Mystery Jun 2012 #43
Out of the two of us agent46 Jun 2012 #45
if you would like to help Karen Klein - you can join me and tens of thousands of others in donating Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #33
Doing that tonight, thanks for the link I Love a Mystery Jun 2012 #44
Thank you for the lovely post. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #19
I did some shitty things in my youth... but nothing this serve... to an INDIVIDUAL. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #20
I think the way adults are behaving in response to these children is reprehensible. FedUpWithIt All Jun 2012 #22
I felt the same way Politicalboi Jun 2012 #26
bullying is NOT A PHASE Skittles Jun 2012 #27
Your last link is broken. nt MADem Jun 2012 #28
apparently, the number of death threats lead youtube to cancelling it. Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #29
Never mind Youtube dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #30
My sympathy meter won't budge. Quantess Jun 2012 #34
I completely agree with the behavior of these little boys being publicly shown. Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #36
Have parents been notified? What about school officials? rurallib Jun 2012 #35
oh absolutely, in fact the families are being bombarded with death threats. Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #37
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