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TexasProgresive

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25. Very good read.

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Sat Jul 8, 2017, 10:31 AM

Jul 2017

We should focus on the voters we can win over and not try to change minds carved in stone.

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John Dean article explains Trump voters. REALLY! [View all] ncgrits Jul 2017 OP

Excellent read. Freedomofspeech Jul 2017 #1

Yes... When Dean first wrote about the authoritarian personality, it all clicked... hlthe2b Jul 2017 #2

Yes, "Conservatives without Conscience" is an excellent read, Hortensis Jul 2017 #7

We are living John Dean's nightmare. gordianot Jul 2017 #12

yup. read it during the w years. mopinko Jul 2017 #14

I was trying to find out what had gone so wrong with the right Hortensis Jul 2017 #54

RW radio and Fox peered into their souls& found rich Alice11111 Jul 2017 #66

Sadly, no. Especially not after RW radio and Fox grabbed Hortensis Jul 2017 #68

Yeah, like robotic monsters, when it comes to values &politics Alice11111 Jul 2017 #72

Yes. As automatic and unthinking. That's what they do. Hortensis Jul 2017 #73

Very scary, bt an least it's validation for us of how they work. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #75

Agree. "Personalities" are always criticizing Dems Hortensis Jul 2017 #76

And what we really need is the way to influence them toward our position... duhneece Jul 2017 #55

"Isn't all this true of Obama/Clinton supporters, too?" yallerdawg Jul 2017 #3

Right Wing Authoritarians & Enemies of Freedom Achilleaze Jul 2017 #4

Excellent op! JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #5

I highly recommend reading Altemeyer's octoberlib Jul 2017 #6

I have so much respect for Altemeyer. Duppers Jul 2017 #26

Did that years ago. warmfeet Jul 2017 #59

So basically say to his supporters "... Trump hugged a non - white person ..." and they'll leave him YCHDT Jul 2017 #8

Christie lost a lot of RW supporters when he hugged Obama after the hurricane. Though he would tblue37 Jul 2017 #16

Great article and worth the read. WhiteTara Jul 2017 #9

Good post, good article. mountain grammy Jul 2017 #10

Yep - Don't forget the Repugs use all kinds psychological tricks to get their voters. We need to kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #60

K&R! G_j Jul 2017 #11

The German adored Hitler in 30s and 40s riverbendviewgal Jul 2017 #13

clearly some still do. mopinko Jul 2017 #15

A lot of Republican true believers are still furious that Nixon was removed from office. tblue37 Jul 2017 #17

LATER generations "changed their beliefs." Where is the same evidence about Hitler's contemporaries? WinkyDink Jul 2017 #19

It might. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #21

Is it possible to breed these traits out of the population? lastlib Jul 2017 #18

"These seemingly incongruous testing results testing high as both followers and leaders" Hugin Jul 2017 #20

It seems that some human beings are hard-wired to be drawn to authoritarianism Mr. Ected Jul 2017 #22

They are also susceptible to authoritarian religious leaders TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #23

+100 Duppers Jul 2017 #28

Bernie supporter here, but you know something? Fuck all those people (voters) KingCharlemagne Jul 2017 #24

More like "Clinton straw man exhaustion". People are tired of the caricature of Clinton ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2017 #31

Well put! My compliments to you! - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2017 #34

This is true LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #45

Yep not fooled Jul 2017 #69

Very good read. TexasProgresive Jul 2017 #25

I also like this one I found on Kos: ananda Jul 2017 #27

To put a finer point on it: Communists and Socialists. Hitler got rid of them first before KingCharlemagne Jul 2017 #35

Good but doesn't make me feel any better. dem4decades Jul 2017 #29

K&R! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #30

In his quiet, understated way John Dean has become one of our best political observers... First Speaker Jul 2017 #32

Is there something we can do to reduce the numbers of these people in the future? nt LAS14 Jul 2017 #33

Fuck them. Fuck every last one of them. Orrex Jul 2017 #36

I worked at the polls last November in our tiny Vermont village. BeekeeperInVermont Jul 2017 #41

Yes, fuck them too. Orrex Jul 2017 #44

Why in the world would I be upset? BeekeeperInVermont Jul 2017 #49

Well, goody for you. Orrex Jul 2017 #58

As the noose tightens around Trump and his treasonous cronies, PatrickforO Jul 2017 #43

Hey donnie not fooled Jul 2017 #70

What do you mean by "confined"? Marengo Jul 2017 #62

It was a sarcastic comment on the fact... Orrex Jul 2017 #63

Shared with several friends. Sobering reading for sure. Grammy23 Jul 2017 #37

That's why we had 'de-Nazification' in the last half of the 1940s and into the 50s. PatrickforO Jul 2017 #38

This is a tremendous thread. longship Jul 2017 #39

Dean is wryly funny, too. klook Jul 2017 #64

The first comment (at the site) illustrates he problem... JHB Jul 2017 #40

This just killed me GrapesOfWrath Jul 2017 #48

Altemeyer's Work Has Always Seemed Spot On DDySiegs Jul 2017 #42

This explains very well why facts are irrelevant to them. Amaryllis Jul 2017 #46

"these things are about 2-3x as true among right-wingers as among left-wingers" yonder Jul 2017 #47

Yes, I've been posting Altemeyer research on DU for years. Here is my post a year ago Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #50

thanks for those links Bernardo +++++ JHan Jul 2017 #51

from my end, thanks too! This is fascinating. nt yonder Jul 2017 #52

There is a strong right-wing contingent in Chile that still supports Pinochet. Tatiana Jul 2017 #53

People are the same not fooled Jul 2017 #71

I encountered several of them at the Impeach Trump March last weekend. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #56

Trump is a muse to his voters. He makes them feel smarter and he allows them their applegrove Jul 2017 #57

He makes them feel like winners. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #67

K&R!!!!!! burrowowl Jul 2017 #61

Thank you! We've got to write off these voters. klook Jul 2017 #65

Interesting so far as it goes, but I don't see it as being especially helpful markpkessinger Jul 2017 #74