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dalton99a

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3. You don't turn the other cheek to Nazis who are determined to kill you

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Non-violent tactics and moral high-ground [View all] summer_in_TX Aug 2017 OP

Yes, lets learn the lessons of history. Eko Aug 2017 #1

There was considerable violence in Germany before Hitler marylandblue Aug 2017 #2

No. They didn't do the same thing. If, when 100 nazis show up, we show up with 5000, and Squinch Aug 2017 #5

Showing up with 65,853,516 against their 62,984,825 put a Nazi sympathizer in the Whitehouse Orrex Aug 2017 #12

You know that is a silly analogy. Squinch Aug 2017 #13

Yes, because I know that dogmatic insistence upon non-violence is silly Orrex Aug 2017 #14

So I guess Dr. King was just a silly guy. And Ghandi was a joke, huh? Squinch Aug 2017 #16

That is your claim, not mine Orrex Aug 2017 #20

You keep saying that King was not non-violent. He never acted against his non-violence message. Squinch Aug 2017 #21

Why did he maintain an arsenal? For hunting? Orrex Aug 2017 #24

Did Dr. King ever shoot anyone? Did he ever stray from his message of non-violence? Squinch Aug 2017 #26

The question is not "did he" but rather "would he have?" Orrex Aug 2017 #30

So, you seem to be saying that King's non-violence was a show, and Squinch Aug 2017 #31

That's clearly and certainly not what I'm saying. Orrex Aug 2017 #34

You know MLK and Malcolm moved closer together in their views. brush Aug 2017 #29

You don't turn the other cheek to Nazis who are determined to kill you dalton99a Aug 2017 #3

That all sounds wonderful but it's not the same Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #4

What you are describing about the image of liberals is a good description of the image of Squinch Aug 2017 #6

Martin Luther King Jr. maintained a substantial arsenal of firearms Orrex Aug 2017 #7

+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #10

Did he ever violently defend himself? Did he pull one of those guns in Selma? Did they Squinch Aug 2017 #15

I agree wholeheartedly. kentuck Aug 2017 #8

While I can appreciate the sentiment leftynyc Aug 2017 #9

Exactly. If you advocate non-violent protests at all times against Nazis KitSileya Aug 2017 #36

Yup... Adrahil Aug 2017 #38

That's why they were so happy with leftynyc Aug 2017 #41

To quote Stokely Carmichael, Nonviolence only works if your enemy has a conscience. backscatter712 Aug 2017 #11

Who turned the tide? Was it Charmichael or King? There is no question that violence is justified Squinch Aug 2017 #17

"Nonviolence only works if your enemy has a conscience." workinclasszero Aug 2017 #19

We aren't talking about the Nazi's conscience, we are trying to get HopeAgain Aug 2017 #27

Exactly. summer_in_TX Aug 2017 #42

No offense, but you sound like Trump leftstreet Aug 2017 #18

That is a horribly offensive thing to say to that poster. "No offense but" makes it all the Squinch Aug 2017 #23

No, it's not leftstreet Aug 2017 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author jmg257 Aug 2017 #22

Don't confuse nonviolence with refusal to defend yourself Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #28

The tide of public opinion is already against these fucksticks Egnever Aug 2017 #32

Non-violence is a POLITICAL tactic and only for the brave marylandblue Aug 2017 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author jmg257 Aug 2017 #35

Of course its tragic, and I am not brave enough marylandblue Aug 2017 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author jmg257 Aug 2017 #39

Non-violence is an outstanding principle, when used by masses MineralMan Aug 2017 #40