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In reply to the discussion: Non-violent tactics and moral high-ground [View all]Orrex
(63,334 posts)20. That is your claim, not mine
Dr. King was fine with violent self-defense when needed, and he understood that it is indeed sometimes needed. He was clearly and absolutely not dogmatic in his view.
And here's what Gandhi thought about the Jews:
Hitler killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher's knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. As it is, they succumbed anyway in their millions.
His idea is that they should have committed catastrophic mass suicide, in order to shame the world into action. Well, fuck that. And if you're fine with the Mahatma's assertion, then you have no business instructing anyone in morality.Edit history
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No. They didn't do the same thing. If, when 100 nazis show up, we show up with 5000, and
Squinch
Aug 2017
#5
Showing up with 65,853,516 against their 62,984,825 put a Nazi sympathizer in the Whitehouse
Orrex
Aug 2017
#12
You keep saying that King was not non-violent. He never acted against his non-violence message.
Squinch
Aug 2017
#21
Did Dr. King ever shoot anyone? Did he ever stray from his message of non-violence?
Squinch
Aug 2017
#26
What you are describing about the image of liberals is a good description of the image of
Squinch
Aug 2017
#6
Did he ever violently defend himself? Did he pull one of those guns in Selma? Did they
Squinch
Aug 2017
#15
To quote Stokely Carmichael, Nonviolence only works if your enemy has a conscience.
backscatter712
Aug 2017
#11
Who turned the tide? Was it Charmichael or King? There is no question that violence is justified
Squinch
Aug 2017
#17