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(6,143 posts) Tue Dec 12, 2017, 08:15 PM Dec 2017

Please stop with the cult of personality. [View all]

That's the way the right acts. Al Franken is not god and Kristen Gillibrand is not the devil. Franken was a great Senator and champion of progressive causes but he was not perfect. No one is. Nor is Gillibrand but she has stood up for women, children, and supported rape victims.

This is hardball politics people and sometimes you have to sacrifice one of your own. If we want to win elections we have to stop beating our chests about how the "party let us down". The GOP let's their voters down all the time, but those voters stay loyal and still vote. That's why they win elections while too many on the left are too busy sitting on their high horse.

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Please stop with the cult of personality. [View all] Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 OP

Get ready for a storm in response to a reasonable opinion. marble falls Dec 2017 #1

Frankin hasn't resigned yet. JimBeard Dec 2017 #24

And he shouldn't, either. Tommorrow would be a good for Mark Dayton to refuse Al's offer to .... marble falls Dec 2017 #28

I Don't Understand Roy Rolling Dec 2017 #43

We're talking about Al Franken. I agree with you, Al Franken hasn't resigned yet. I further posited. marble falls Dec 2017 #45

Al Franken doesn't work for Mark Dayton. Mark Dayton can't "refuse" Al's resignation onenote Dec 2017 #96

Sacrificing one of your own is "reasonable"? BlueWI Dec 2017 #53

Its an honest opinion. I don't necessarily buy into it, but its a popular opinion here and it was... marble falls Dec 2017 #54

Objecting to being called a cult of personality is nitpicking? BlueWI Dec 2017 #55

Who's asking, I was confirming: we're all voting Democratic. Have the rest your way. Sulk alone. marble falls Dec 2017 #56

Sounds like a plan. BlueWI Dec 2017 #67

So true! SkyDaddy7 Dec 2017 #2

It's natural to politics today. Just look at the 2016 election. jalan48 Dec 2017 #3

Nope, wrong. n/t demmiblue Dec 2017 #4

+1000 OnDoutside Dec 2017 #6

Only commentary -- your horse comment made me again... moriah Dec 2017 #5

No, he's not a god Bettie Dec 2017 #7

The Senator is who voted against Trump the most Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #57

Well said, Bettie. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #77

"Sacrifice one of your own." Nope, not on accusations. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #8

+1000 dflprincess Dec 2017 #44

+1000 Alice11111 Dec 2017 #78

Losing stategy for standingtall Dec 2017 #9

"Cult of personality"? "Hardball politics"? Such hyperbolic terms... JHB Dec 2017 #10

But oddly, for people who profess to be so pissed, this isn't a game changer Kaleva Dec 2017 #15

Exactly what should they be doing, in your opinion? JHB Dec 2017 #20

Here's a link Kaleva Dec 2017 #21

So, you got nothing. JHB Dec 2017 #22

Nothing is what people who profess to be angry are doing. Kaleva Dec 2017 #23

"THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES" n/t Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #11

LOL peequod Dec 2017 #13

Spot on. n/t geardaddy Dec 2017 #49

LOL Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #75

Bingo zipplewrath Dec 2017 #76

I say let people vent, Trumpocalypse. peequod Dec 2017 #12

In this instance ... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #14

"Sacrificing one of our own" was pointless. It gained us absolutely nothing." LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #30

Agree. I haven't heard the right crying out, the Dems are moral! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #79

What about Nancy Pelosi? Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #16

Why would you want to stop an effective Dem?? Alice11111 Dec 2017 #86

Kind of a straw man argument, as I haven't seen anyone claiming Crunchy Frog Dec 2017 #17

You should read more of the threads here nt Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #58

K&R mcar Dec 2017 #18

This should be fun to watch Kilgore Dec 2017 #19

Gillibrand was unwilling to await due process Skittles Dec 2017 #25

+++++++++++ pangaia Dec 2017 #27

Ditto. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #33

bout it, there was no downside in waiting for due process uponit7771 Dec 2017 #48

self-serving bullshit on her part Skittles Dec 2017 #52

Wow you really missed the point nt Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #59

no, I didn't Skittles Dec 2017 #73

Yeah you did and Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #74

LOL Skittles Dec 2017 #84

buh-bye Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #85

+100 billh58 Dec 2017 #93

Yup. cwydro Dec 2017 #62

Truth Alice11111 Dec 2017 #89

i support due process, but a lot of people here are doing a really good job of acting like they TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #98

he did not deserve to be booted out of the Senate without an investigation Skittles Dec 2017 #107

No KT2000 Dec 2017 #26

And .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #31

Ditto. And ironically, she's not a strong contender for the Presidency. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #36

and he got a member of the club KT2000 Dec 2017 #37

You've got to be kidding me. pangaia Dec 2017 #29

No...I don't need to be told what is right or wrong. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #32

+1 SergeStorms Dec 2017 #38

voice of a young girl???? Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #60

I thought this was going to be about something else entirely. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #34

"sometimes you have to sacrifice one of your own." Horse-fucking-shit. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2017 #35

Exactly. I wonder if the OP would feel the same if it were HER who was being sacrificed. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #41

I don't sacrifice someone who has my back. blue cat Dec 2017 #39

There was no need. She wanted him to tweet something vindictive...gave her national exposure. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #42

Using Al Fraken's situation as a launching point was a poor move. CentralMass Dec 2017 #40

The GOP let's their voters down all the time, but those voters stay loyal and still vote. ashling Dec 2017 #46

Your last 2 sentences are everything and everybody should read it again !!!!! Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #47

Just a smidge at odds with the first 7 sentences. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2017 #51

Thank you. Excellent argument in favor of both Hillary & Bernie bowing out of presidential politics. beastie boy Dec 2017 #50

I like Franken AND Gillibrand MountCleaners Dec 2017 #61

Nobody, ever, has thought of Franken as a god. Former comedians are not worshiped as gods. Duh. betsuni Dec 2017 #63

You should have read the threads her last week Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #65

I've read the threads here last week and the replies in this thread. betsuni Dec 2017 #72

Nope, you swung and missed horribly. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #82

No I didn't Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #83

Yes you did. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #87

Not cynicism Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #88

Yours is the only valid view of reality? Just listen to yourelf, for heaven's sake. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #91

You're being naive. Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #92

LMAO Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #94

Well I only know what you've posted here Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #95

You're very one-note, aren't you? Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #97

And that one note is called reality. nt Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #102

What YOU have chosen as YOUR "reality". Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #106

No it's political reality Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #109

No it's not. n/t Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #110

You're in denial Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #111

No I'm not. n/t Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #112

Denying it is part of being in denial. Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #113

No it's not. n/t Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #114

You're so stubborn Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #115

No I'm not. n/t Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #116

Still in denial, so sad. Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #117

No he/she's not kwalter66 Dec 2017 #118

Hi! Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #120

Admitting the problem Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #123

Still, he need not have resigned. treestar Dec 2017 #64

Probably Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #66

Since Moore didn't win, treestar Dec 2017 #68

What if Moore would have only standingtall Dec 2017 #70

Yep. treestar Dec 2017 #71

Not really standingtall Dec 2017 #69

Wrong. Due Process is a value that hardball democratic politicians delisen Dec 2017 #80

That's being naive Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #81

Exactly. The hard decision was NOT made. delisen Dec 2017 #100

No you have to make hard decisions Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #101

I don't have to do anything and my horse is not high. delisen Dec 2017 #104

Wow That's a reach. Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #105

Geez kwalter66 Dec 2017 #119

When you guys resort to personal attacks like this Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #122

oh please... Joe941 Dec 2017 #90

Al is great and I wish he had decided to stick it out, but onenote Dec 2017 #99

Exactly my point! Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #103

Well kwalter66 Dec 2017 #121

And if you want to be in a party where people threaten to walk away because of a mistake onenote Dec 2017 #124

No. XRubicon Dec 2017 #108