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SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
97. It's not about Bernie, it's about our votes being stolen.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jun 2016

perhaps they read about it in.....
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../electronic-voting-mach

THE HUFFINGTON POST

Electronic Voting Machines Still Widely Used Despite Security Concerns
10/22/2012 03:51 pm ET

Gerry Smith

Technology reporter, The Huffington Post
For years, researchers have been aware of numerous security flaws in electronic voting machines. They’ve found ways to hack the machines to swap votes between candidates, reject ballots or accept 50,000 votes from a precinct with just 100 voters.

Yet on Nov. 6, millions of voters — including many in hotly contested swing states — will cast ballots on e-voting machines that researchers have found are vulnerable to hackers. What is more troubling, say some critics, is that election officials have no way to verify that votes are counted accurately because some states do not use e-voting machines that produce paper ballots.

After the “hanging chad” controversy of the 2000 election, Congress passed a federal law that gave states funding to replace their punch card and lever voting systems with electronic voting machines. But computer scientists have repeatedly demonstrated that a variety of electronic voting machines can be hacked — often quite easily.

“Every time they are studied, we find further problems,” said J. Alex Halderman, a computer science professor at the University of Michigan who researches voting machine security.

“It’s simply a matter of reprogramming these machines to be dishonest,” Halderman added. “That’s what we found six years ago and it’s still true today, and many of these machines are still in use.”

In 2008, researchers at Princeton University found that it took seven minutes, using simple tools, to install a different computer program in a voting machine “that steals votes from one party’s candidates, and gives them to another.” That machine, the Sequoia Avantage, is still used in at least six states by 9 million voters, according to Roger Johnston, who heads the vulnerability assessment team at Argonne National Laboratory.

Last fall, Johnston and his team of researchers found that Diebold’s AccuVote voting machines could be hacked to change voting results by inserting a piece of electronics into the machines. Diebold’s AccuVote voting machines are used in at least 20 states by 21 million voters, according to Johnston.

“I’ve seen high school science fair projects that are more sophisticated than what is needed to hijack a voting machine,” Johnston said in an interview.

Most voting machines are made by two manufacturers, Election Systems & Software and Dominion Voting Systems, which was formerly Diebold Election Systems. Neither company returned requests for comment.
Researchers say it’s difficult to determine whether voting machine manufacturers have fixed cyber-security flaws because the companies do not share their software code publicly. In addition, there is little pressure on them from elections officials to do so, Johnston said.

“The voting manufacturers are in denial,” Johnston said. “They are not doing anything about these problems, but their customers are not asking them to, either.”

However, there is no evidence that hackers have ever manipulated votes in a U.S. election, experts say. And many election officials insist security concerns about voting machines are overblown. They say that security on Election Day is much stricter than, say, what a team of computer scientists with unlimited time in a laboratory might face to hack a voting machine.

“It’s important to keep in mind that having full and open access to these systems is quite different than how these systems are available to voters on Election Day,” said Jessica Myers, a voting systems certification specialist at U.S. Election Assistance Commission, which certifies e-voting machines.

Butler County, Ohio — in a key swing state with more than 240,000 registered voters — has been using AccuVote machines since 2005, according to Lynn Kinkaid, director of the county board of elections. One reason they still use the machines is that “elderly people like them because you can enlarge the print,” he said.

Kinkaid said the county’s e-voting machines are tested before each election, encrypted and not connected to the Internet.

“We are very sure our machines are safe and secure,” he said.

Lehigh County, Pa., which has about 236,000 registered voters in another swing state, has been using Accuvote voting machines since 2006, according to Tim Benyo, the county’s chief clerk for registration and elections.

Benyo said the county’s e-voting machines are certified by the state, and prior to Election Day, they are locked, sealed and never left alone. He said there have been “slight modifications” to the machines’ software over the years, “but nothing drastic.”

“I am familiar with some reports of them being able to be hacked,” Benyo said. “But my concerns are limited because these machines are not left alone with anybody for a long enough period of time.”

However, Halderman, of the University of Michigan, was part of a team of researchers in 2006 that found a hacker with access to an AccuVote voting machine for just one minute could install malicious code on the machine to steal votes.

Lehigh County’s e-voting machines do not produce a paper record for voters because it is not required by the state, Benyo said. One-quarter of registered voters nationwide will cast ballots on Nov. 6 using electronic voting machines that do not produce paper ballots, according to VerifiedVoting.org, a nonprofit whose mission is to safeguard elections in the digital age.

Without paper ballots — which are counted using optical scan systems — elections officials have no way to go back and conduct an audit to see whether votes were counted correctly, security researchers say.

“You really can’t tell whether vote totals are accurate unless you have a paper ballot,” said David Dill, founder of VerifiedVoting.org.

In 2006, Maryland lawmakers passed a bill that called for state election officials to stop using Diebold’s AccuVote-TSx touchscreen systems, which the state has used since 2002, because the machines contained security flaws and did not produce a paper record, according to Computer World magazine.
But after the law passed, Gov. Martin O’Malley chose not to fund the purchase of new e-voting machines that produce paper ballots, according to Donna Duncan, a spokeswoman for the Maryland State Board of Elections. On Nov. 6, polling places across Maryland will still use AccuVote touchscreen machines that don’t produce paper ballots.

“We have absolute confidence in the voting equipment,” Duncan said. “The security measures we put in place, we believe, are sufficient.”

not LBN - its analysis and opinion nt msongs Jun 2016 #1
Actually, it is LBN news about today's voting in California. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #39
Many people like me get an absentee ballot mailed to them Frances Jun 2016 #2
I've never used an absentee ballot, thinking that it wouldn't be tom_kelly Jun 2016 #5
Our voting problems have not only gone unfixed since 2000, they've actually Gene Debs Jun 2016 #7
Nothing to see here, move along. Snarkoleptic Jun 2016 #15
+1000 LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #38
Anarchist Feminist Emma Goldman quote: Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #89
It' a feature, not a bug. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #35
In my state we can go online and make sure our ballots will be counted. pnwmom Jun 2016 #17
Same in my state. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #23
It's called election fraud. Kokonoe Jun 2016 #24
It was a total mess here. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #37
Am not surprised. Voting has been a mess all across the country. OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #40
I read a critique of the campaign by someone with experience working in one. pnwmom Jun 2016 #44
I helped register voters for Bernie. We educated them carefully. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #59
Here's an article that might be of interest. Another part of the problem pnwmom Jun 2016 #62
It's not about Bernie, it's about our votes being stolen. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #97
Bernie supporters have been accusing Hillary of being behind election fraud, pnwmom Jun 2016 #98
In California, it's not an "absentee" ballot Retrograde Jun 2016 #53
Right. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #60
Biggest problem with that for young people is that they are extremely glowing Jun 2016 #70
That's a good point Retrograde Jun 2016 #71
They just don't know.. Civics or basic teaching of govt is just glowing Jun 2016 #79
Here in PA RobinA Jun 2016 #84
Los Angeles County is a county that would be expected to be strong for Hillary, pnwmom Jun 2016 #3
That's possible. ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #9
Not in my area where the problems were terrible and many. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #34
Wouldn't have thought that. OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #41
Polling had been showing both LA and San Fran to be strong for Hillary. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #47
Since the beginning of the campaign... Orrex Jun 2016 #4
So far today we have three frauds and one will of the people. beastie boy Jun 2016 #6
I have no idea who the people were voting for who were being given, JDPriestly Jun 2016 #33
Clinton won heavily in all 5 boroughs of NYC and the voting problems pnwmom Jun 2016 #49
Obviously, Clinton was colluding with Republicans... Orrex Jun 2016 #75
ThankYou! baran Jun 2016 #73
You are mistaken Orrex Jun 2016 #81
If there are such issues in LA, sheshe2 Jun 2016 #8
I know... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #80
Dear Bernie, SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #99
Absentee Ballot allinthegame Jun 2016 #10
Provisional ballots are simply tossed away. Kokonoe Jun 2016 #11
They will be counted in 21 days in Los Angeles. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #30
A can of worms verified within 21 days. Kokonoe Jun 2016 #42
Maybe. A lot of people were being given provisional ballots. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #48
Only the ballots connected with people who met the deadline for being registered pnwmom Jun 2016 #52
That was not the issue that the voters I talked to today had. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #57
The onus was on the Bernie campaign to go after the non-affiliated voters, pnwmom Jun 2016 #66
That was done. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #69
Putting hangers on doorknobs wasn't enough. As you note, not everyone pnwmom Jun 2016 #72
One use for provisional ballots is to cast a vote even if alfredo Jun 2016 #82
Provisional ballots are for voters who have been rejected in person. Kokonoe Jun 2016 #91
so you are saying my fellow election officials are corrupt? alfredo Jun 2016 #93
Who'd bother? Retrograde Jun 2016 #95
I had absolutely NO problem ! jaysunb Jun 2016 #12
In what part of California did you vote. I am in Los Angeles. It was JDPriestly Jun 2016 #31
Pasadena n/t jaysunb Jun 2016 #45
Welp, the corporatocracy gets what the corporatocracy wants (and paid for). Snarkoleptic Jun 2016 #13
Business as usual warrprayer Jun 2016 #14
I had no problem. No one I know had any problems. Beaverhausen Jun 2016 #16
If we can't (or won't) get this right, chapdrum Jun 2016 #18
As cenk uygur WOULD say ... yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #19
this is now officially a third world country in terms of voting bbgrunt Jun 2016 #20
Yes. Especially New York, Arizona and California. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #27
Per Steve Kornacki, of all the independents who requested a mail ballot, 15% got a Dem ballot. hedda_foil Jun 2016 #21
The clarity is not an issue at the state level. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #25
Only 15% requested a Dem ballot MattP Jun 2016 #29
proove it OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #43
Yeah, that's "chaos", like a fox, eh? nikto Jun 2016 #22
It was a typical Hillary Clinton primary day -- horrible chaos, cheating JDPriestly Jun 2016 #26
Sounds like CA will have the validity OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #46
It's not fair to blame this on Hillary. It's not her fault, for example, pnwmom Jun 2016 #54
The people I saw in the polls were clearly decline to state and not JDPriestly Jun 2016 #56
"I spoke to a woman who" Retrograde Jun 2016 #63
More of... kadaholo Jun 2016 #83
America is just simply not a democracy. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #28
Let me guess...SoS probably a Clinton supporter? HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #32
Alex Padilla catchnrelease Jun 2016 #65
Could not vote grendelsd Jun 2016 #36
It needs to be postmarked by midnight. jaysunb Jun 2016 #50
Voting went extremely smoothly here in OC. stopbush Jun 2016 #51
I hate to say it... c-ville rook Jun 2016 #61
Of course libodem Jun 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author tomsmom22 Jun 2016 #58
We handle voting in this country like some broken down banana republic. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #67
the nation has unfortunately fallen into that state- witness infrastructure wordpix Jun 2016 #74
We handle it collectively. Igel Jun 2016 #85
What? You think this isn't a broken down LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #90
I had no such experience voting for Bernie in a rather GOP county of California.. NT vkkv Jun 2016 #64
Over It. Elections Don't Work Anymore billhicks76 Jun 2016 #68
Thanx for the post! K N' R Jack Bone Jun 2016 #76
Election fraud RICO lawsuit filed June 6-I have no way to form an opinion merrily Jun 2016 #77
It's very sad our election system is so F'ed up mdbl Jun 2016 #78
I hope Bernie supporters won't use this as an excuse to claim election fraud. Nitram Jun 2016 #86
LOL GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #88
Voter suppression tactics have gotten more refined in this cycle. nt valerief Jun 2016 #87
How odd that THIS is the primary where our elections look like third world countries. cui bono Jun 2016 #92
Voter disenfranchisment is a systemic feature... blackspade Jun 2016 #94
I currently don't think it's deliberately rigged by any one campaign. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #96
LOCKING THREAD AS ANALYSIS/OPINION LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #100
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