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Hekate

(91,232 posts)
21. Terrific blog post. That was no "simple tonsillectomy" as the MSM describes it over and over....
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:04 AM
Jan 2014
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2014/01/jahis-legacy.html

This:

From CHO’s attorney’s response court filings on December 20, we learned that Jahi had not had a simple tonsillectomy, but actually several invasive procedures to open up her upper airway. She’d undergone an adenotonsillectomy, uvulopalatopharyngoplasty, and submucous resection of bilateral inferior turbinates. In laymen’s terms, her tonsils and adenoids had been surgically removed from the back of her throat, her uvula (that thing hanging down at the back of your throat) and soft palate removed or remodeled, and excess soft tissue removed from the back of her nose. These tissues are very fragile and highly vascular, meaning they can bleed a lot, as anyone who has had a nosebleed can testify to. We learned via local media that the teen had recently been given the privilege of taking the bus to nearby Berkeley to get her favorite treat from an ice cream shop: a snickerdoodle ice cream sandwich with vanilla ice cream, despite weight being a huge factor in obstructive sleep apnea.

And this:

Via messages left on SFGate’s message board, commenters claimed that the family did not follow the physician’s post-op instructions. Because of HIPAA laws, the hospital and staff are not allowed to talk, but civilians visiting the hospital are not bound to silence. Numerous posts claimed that the family marched extended family to Jahi’s bedside, talking to her and encouraging her to talk back. Doctors and nurses instructed the parents to keep the teen quiet.

There has also been chatter on message boards regarding co-morbidities. While it is true that anything on the Internet needs to be read with suspicion, sometimes the truth ekes out. Posts were made stating that she had Type 2 diabetes and asthma. Posts were made claiming that Bay Area physicians, when asked by parents about tonsillectomy risks, replied that the word in the medical community was that Jahi’s family failed to disclose a familial predisposition to bleeding. Because of HIPAA laws, the hospital is not allowed to discuss the case at all, and is only allowed to say that Jahi is in the facility and that her condition has not changed.

Things are starting to look like this was family noncompliance, not physician error or nurse negligence. Talking is a no-no in the immediate post-op period after any sort of upper airway surgery. Failing to disclose something as serious as a potential bleeding disorder may well have been fatal.


The family are starting to look like idiots, with all due respect to their grief. (Even idiots grieve deeply -- but if they do things like bring in a stream of visitors and tell the kid to talk when they've been specifically instructed to not do anything of the sort, it is not the hospital's fault.)

And this, for the benefit of the MSM and others who can't tell the difference between irreversible brain death and a coma:

In the early-morning hours of December 11, signs of brain swelling were noted. That pressure, combined with a lack of blood flow, effectively killed her cerebral cortex and brain stem. How is it known her brain stem is dead? Because she is unable to breathe on her own without the ventilator, and has no swallow or gag reflex. How do we know her cerebral cortex—the seed of our consciousness and individuality—is dead? She is unconscious because there is no blood flowing through her brain and there is no electrical activity.

Her heart beats because the heart does not need messages from the brain to beat....


The whole thing is horrifying. Several years ago I read a worst-case scenario about a mother who kept the corpse of her child ventilated and fed at home for nearly a year. It took that long for all the cells to finally die. A couple of times she rushed the youngster to the ER because of airway obstruction -- the medical professionals tried to tell her the "obstruction" was actually decay, but there was no getting through her denial. I hope to God Jahi doesn't end up like that.




The mother should be allowed to do what she wishes bigwillq Jan 2014 #1
Her daughter is already dead. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #3
Agreed. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #26
I watched the mother exactly once Scairp Jan 2014 #32
Is she going to try to take the child out to the New York hospital without medical support. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #2
"Judge Grillo...not(ed) the girl could be moved with the ventilator she is now using." rocktivity Jan 2014 #4
I hope she has an attorney. Wait Wut Jan 2014 #5
TRULY heartbreaking! Bigmack Jan 2014 #9
According to this update, a death certificate has been issued rocktivity Jan 2014 #6
California must have public health laws.... tomp Jan 2014 #22
The certificate doesn't have a CAUSE of death, of course, because an autopsy hasn't been done rocktivity Jan 2014 #24
I understand, but.... tomp Jan 2014 #25
Now that she's "officially" dead, disposing of Jahi properly is all the family CAN do rocktivity Jan 2014 #28
but that is apparently NOT what the family intends to do. tomp Jan 2014 #37
This means some needy child will be without a ventilator cosmicone Jan 2014 #7
The family probably did not 840high Jan 2014 #8
I hope not, since they still think she is alive... Thor_MN Jan 2014 #11
Corpses cannot "survive" anything. Just sayin'. kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #10
You mean "clear to take her CORPSE from hospital" Codeine Jan 2014 #12
Stakes are Higher for Schiavo Supporters ninjanurse Jan 2014 #13
I would have agreed with you until Julie our Sr bldg President in 2008 kickysnana Jan 2014 #14
My total sympathy is with the family. I don't 840high Jan 2014 #17
This case is not that Scairp Jan 2014 #33
You also have to wonder if this had been a blond blue eyed girl if opinions would be different. Violette_Crime Jan 2014 #43
Here's an interesting post on the case Nonhlanhla Jan 2014 #15
That is an excellent blog post, thank you for sharing that. n/t Butterbean Jan 2014 #18
Terrific blog post. That was no "simple tonsillectomy" as the MSM describes it over and over.... Hekate Jan 2014 #21
The writer believes shite in the SFGate message board comments? Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #29
True, but... Nonhlanhla Jan 2014 #31
You are incorrect JohninPA Jan 2014 #38
They were misdiagnosed Nonhlanhla Jan 2014 #40
It's really "organ support", not life support...n/t PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #16
It's not even that Nonhlanhla Jan 2014 #19
I agree, quite creepy n/t PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #23
Let her go awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #20
To move her from one coast to the other... Historic NY Jan 2014 #27
they have. magical thyme Jan 2014 #30
an anonymous doctor has volunteered to do it. warrant46 Jan 2014 #34
I wouldn't be surprised... magical thyme Jan 2014 #35
Wow warrant46 Jan 2014 #36
Heartbreaking case, but the parents should let her go. Beacool Jan 2014 #39
They are religious people, and I hope that their god will soon help them accept their daughter's Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #41
Yes, it is. Beacool Jan 2014 #42
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