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Android3.14

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42. I needed to add this
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jun 2014

As a former long-time teacher (who no longer teaches, because the current manifestation of public education was and is a soul crushing nightmare struggle), I have a cynical view about CC. Personally, I doubt it will change anything. Our teachers will continue to struggle to teach because of the 3-way conflict between a parent's desire to feel good about their kid, and administrators' drive to keep parents from complaining, and a good teacher's efforts to maintain high standards.
As any teacher knows, the state imposes a "fundamental change" every 5-10 years with changing standards, new methodologies, classroom management, etc.. As educators, we must struggle to complete our tasks while standing on a constantly shifting base as if education (something humans have been doing for a couple of hundred thousand years) is something we've been doing wrong up until the 1960s.
The criticisms of Common Core (issues of local control, propaganda, teaching to the test, companies making a profit, my child is unhappy, it's too hard, it's too easy, or whatever) are banal repetitions of the last umpteen years.
The only thing that I see that might, just might, change the current pathetic excuse we have for public education is the national curriculum.
The rest of it is just the same old same old.

Booby did that?! KamaAina Jun 2014 #1
yea so they can teach creationism leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #3
Touche. KamaAina Jun 2014 #4
that might be the price we have to pay in some states to pry Wall Street off our kids yurbud Jun 2014 #5
I would take Wall Street over anti gay bible thumpers. iandhr Jun 2014 #14
Why is it always a lesser of two evils with democrats? I'm so sick of that. I won't take either. liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #18
If those were my only two choices, I'd move yurbud Jun 2014 #20
A deadly statement! JackRiddler Jun 2014 #57
So we either let republicans teach creationism or we let corporations test our schools into oblivion liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #6
I doubt it. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #29
The corporate dems have allowed repukes, even really vile ones like Piyush, to outflank them Doctor_J Jun 2014 #2
who's Piyush? yurbud Jun 2014 #7
That's Jindal's actual first name. n/t Psephos Jun 2014 #9
People from India who live in the US usually choose an American name as a nickname jmowreader Jun 2014 #35
not in my school kwassa Jun 2014 #45
Piyush Jindal. NOLALady Jun 2014 #12
Outflanked? fujiyama Jun 2014 #34
When are certain Democrats going to recognize that Republicans are using them as tools Android3.14 Jun 2014 #8
My autistic son who is in special education is being forced to keep up with Common Core liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #10
My complete sympathy Android3.14 Jun 2014 #13
Why is a national curriculum desireable? Psephos Jun 2014 #11
A lack of a national curriculum means Intelligent Design in the classroom Android3.14 Jun 2014 #15
No, it doesn't. Psephos Jun 2014 #16
I completely agree with you. Democrats use women's rights and gay rights to avoid economic issues. liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #19
Let's go at this from a different direction jmowreader Jun 2014 #36
we can keep fighting to keep creationism out of the classroom without supporting Common Core. liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #17
Why keep creationism out of the classroom? louielouie Jun 2014 #21
you want creationism in the classroom? Put it in an optional comparative religion class where liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #22
It seems like you have already changed your mind. louielouie Jun 2014 #25
Already changed my mind about what? I have advocated for an optional comparative religion class for liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #26
Earlier you said, "We can keep fighting to keep creationism out of the classroom...." louielouie Jun 2014 #27
Thank you for playing Android3.14 Jun 2014 #23
That's a convenient strawman. Igel Jun 2014 #28
True. Some teachers need the Test so they'll know what to teach. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #30
Some teachers cannot handle the content Android3.14 Jun 2014 #32
Wrong TeacherB87 Jun 2014 #24
By your logic, we should only attempt to do something if it will solve every aspect of a challenge Android3.14 Jun 2014 #31
Common Core is not designed to "meet a challenge." It is designed to make a profit for the company yurbud Jun 2014 #38
So what you are saying is... Android3.14 Jun 2014 #41
the company is dictating the standard. It's like a scalpel company dictating medical treatment yurbud Jun 2014 #47
No. Android3.14 Jun 2014 #48
"philanthropies" that attack pensions and collective bargaining for teachers, and for the benefit yurbud Jun 2014 #49
You make claims, but you don't provide proof Android3.14 Jun 2014 #50
Here's a couple to start yurbud Jun 2014 #51
Tsk tsk. Android3.14 Jun 2014 #52
condescension like your last line doesn't play here yurbud Jun 2014 #55
I needed to add this Android3.14 Jun 2014 #42
Have at it Louisiana! fujiyama Jun 2014 #33
Hammer,... Ferretherder Jun 2014 #37
this dislike it for the wrong reasons, but as long as it's another log on the fire... yurbud Jun 2014 #39
"Another log?" Try "lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas" as a more msanthrope Jun 2014 #40
"centrist" Democrats love bipartisanship when it serves their corporate masters yurbud Jun 2014 #43
Jindal is "little people?" nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #44
no he isn't, but the opposition to common core is coming from the bottom up yurbud Jun 2014 #46
No. Android3.14 Jun 2014 #53
Good one jamzrockz Jun 2014 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #54
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