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In reply to the discussion: Supreme Court limits greenhouse gas regulations [View all]happyslug
(14,779 posts)5. Here is the Opinion, it is a real mess
Last edited Mon Jun 23, 2014, 09:24 PM - Edit history (3)
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-1146_4g18.pdfBEFORE YOU READ THE OPINION REMEMBER THE CLEAN AIR ACT RESTRICTS WHAT POLLUTERS THE EPA CAN REGULATE. That was the issue in front of the Supreme Court. The question was simply:
Are Green House Gases to be counted to determine if a polluter is under the regulatory power of the EPA?
Small polluters are NOT to be regulated by the EPA under the terms of the Clean Air Act, for example in 1976 when the Act was passed Senate Muskie said the act was NOT intended to regulate people's homes, but just major polluters.
This in this case the issue was did the EPA have the authority to add Green House Gases to the list of gases caused by pollution when it came to determining if the EPA had the authority to regulate a polluter of primarily Green House Gases?
SCALIA, J., announced the judgment of the Court and delivered an opinion, Parts I and II of which were for the Court. ROBERTS, C. J., and KENNEDY, J., joined that opinion in full; Please note Scalia makes two findings:
1. One that the Clean Air Act did NOT give the EPA the ability to regulate Green House gases in and by themselves, (This was Parts 1, II-1 and II-B-1 of the Clean air act, this was agreed with by Thomas and Alito, but rejected by Ginsberg, Breyer, Somtomayer and Kagan)
2. but the Clean Air Act did give the EPA to regulate Green Houses gases along with other pollinates the EPA was regulating (this was agreed to be Ginsberg, Breyer, Somtomayer and Kagan but rejected by Thomas and Alito).
Thus you had seven justices who said the EPA can regulate Green House Gases as part of the EPA's regulation of most pollution, but two that said the EPA could NOT regulate Green House gases at all.
Three Justices said the EPA could NOT regulate Green House Gases in and by themselves, but could regulate them with other pollutes (That was Scalia, Roberts and Kennedy).
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Triple split judgment. I am not sure the interpretation of the author is correct.
Fred Sanders
Jun 2014
#11
I think you have it right after your edit, it makes sense that the meat of the ruling is that
Fred Sanders
Jun 2014
#42
This is NOT a constitutional issue, but a statutory issue, did Congress give this Power to the EPA
happyslug
Jun 2014
#35
There you have it. How many comment based only on the headline without reading the story?
7962
Jun 2014
#13
Except greenhouse gases - CO2 levels at 400 ppm - a record in humankind's existence
progree
Jun 2014
#22
Sorry, but I'm not giving China & India a pass just so they can "catch up" to western living
7962
Jun 2014
#43
Well, then maybe we should reduce our per-capita CO2 emssions to China & India's levels
progree
Jun 2014
#44
Different headline/same story: Justices, With Limits, Let E.P.A. Curb Power-Plant Gases.
elleng
Jun 2014
#14
Ummm, the Supreme Court confirmed the EPA has the power to regulate GH gas emissions
pediatricmedic
Jun 2014
#26
Please note no one is bringing up any constitutional issues, just what did Congress passed.
happyslug
Jun 2014
#46
So many fell for the slanted headline, the EPA won nearly everything it wanted
pediatricmedic
Jun 2014
#24
True, I still can't wrap around moral and polluting industry used in the same sentence.
freshwest
Jun 2014
#33
I go straight to the actual Supreme Court Opinion and see what the Court actually wrote.
happyslug
Jun 2014
#40
From what I read it looks pretty good. They already answered the question about the NEW EPA rules.
dballance
Jun 2014
#30
Disturbing .. Money trumps Clean Air. Hmm. Has a SCOTUS judge ever been impeached?
YOHABLO
Jun 2014
#38