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AngryAmish

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61. Actually the opinion only applies to these home health care workers

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:26 PM

Jun 2014

In effect the Court ruled that they were not real employees. All the other government employees are not affected.

As I stated in another few threads, the idea of unionizing these family members comes from a corrupt deal between Blago and SEIU.

THe good guys won today. No matter what the overheated and ignorant rhetoric you hear today.

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Supreme Court strikes blow to public sector unions [View all] NYC Liberal Jun 2014 OP

If you stupid fucking americans dont god damn wake up soon some of us will stop trying randys1 Jun 2014 #1

Are you American?...If so, you need to speak for (and insult) yourself whathehell Jun 2014 #6

Yes I am American and include myself, I thought that was obvious, if not that is what randys1 Jun 2014 #7

It's not obvious when your form of address is "you Americans" whathehell Jun 2014 #11

Yeah, that is a better way to say it...by the way, didnt Gore have options even after the SC randys1 Jun 2014 #17

He did, chose not to. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2014 #45

Okay, well thanks whathehell Jun 2014 #60

You need to take some yoga joeglow3 Jun 2014 #19

already had two heart attacks, my world includes a rightwing business partner randys1 Jun 2014 #21

I love your passion though! joeglow3 Jun 2014 #58

I'm not insulted by your use of ballyhoo Jun 2014 #24

I totally understand your feelings, I wish California could become an independent country, myself randys1 Jun 2014 #28

I think it will be one day, along with several other ballyhoo Jun 2014 #30

If we break up, the rightwing states will suffer tremendously and ultimately lash out with war randys1 Jun 2014 #32

They are ideologues. They ballyhoo Jun 2014 #37

You know what I have noticed about recent SC rulings randys1 Jun 2014 #39

Even though I am the opposite of you ballyhoo Jun 2014 #42

MG? randys1 Jun 2014 #44

Myasthenia gravis. No. Physicians ballyhoo Jun 2014 #49

I disagree. They possess more land and resources. We have people, they have what we need. freshwest Jun 2014 #68

A comment 90-percent Jun 2014 #33

Sorry. My first obligation is to ballyhoo Jun 2014 #40

Can you relate to me the Bible story of how one-fourth of the World's population will be destroyed DhhD Jun 2014 #50

I think Oligarchs are the modern equivalent of ballyhoo Jun 2014 #51

Agreed. The ultimate goal of the Oligarchs is to reduce the world population, and to DhhD Jun 2014 #43

Does this mean that Unions can reject representing those who don't pay? woodsprite Jun 2014 #2

Not in this case FBaggins Jun 2014 #3

they dont get much over minimum, anyway, but mopinko Jun 2014 #23

AFAIK, no. When I was a steward and my union went on strike, those who scabbed cheerfully walked by freshwest Jun 2014 #27

The union never represented the plaintiff, so that's not really an issue here. hugo_from_TN Jul 2014 #71

How about if you don't pay dues to a union, you don't benefit when they negotiate? alarimer Jun 2014 #4

Because right to work has nothing to do with "giving workers a choice" it's all about MillennialDem Jun 2014 #9

I wonder what it would take to get through to the free-riders? alarimer Jun 2014 #63

My Union secondvariety Jun 2014 #65

+1 exactly! lunasun Jun 2014 #67

The plaintiff in the case does not benefit from any union negotiations or contracts. hugo_from_TN Jul 2014 #70

What is Ralph Nader thinking today? Democat Jun 2014 #5

As long as it doesn't have consequences for him, why the hell should he care davidpdx Jun 2014 #13

He's too busy counting his money to think about his legacy. nt onehandle Jun 2014 #15

Nader? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #26

But it's so much more fulfilling to run around pointing fingers at everyone instead of doing jtuck004 Jun 2014 #47

Haha, true. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #59

I worked in an organization packman Jun 2014 #8

A guy at my job in WI had a good idea would be to change the union to a corporation then we'd have MillennialDem Jun 2014 #10

By any other name deancr Jun 2014 #22

My union is called California Teachers roody Jun 2014 #69

Yeah, no surprise there. malthaussen Jun 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author sakabatou Jun 2014 #14

Fortunately, this doesn't have any effect on our Dept. IronGate Jun 2014 #16

do you understand why scotus is more important than any issue you might have leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #18

Duty of Fair Representation deancr Jun 2014 #20

One thing deancr Jun 2014 #25

It could be worse deancr Jun 2014 #29

Applicable to adjunct professors? Downwinder Jun 2014 #31

The way I read it, yes. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #66

Corporations are persons, unions are not persons, humans are not persons. valerief Jun 2014 #34

"humans are not persons" NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #36

Except that men are union members, too, which excludes them from personage. nt valerief Jun 2014 #38

I said it the other day and I'm saying it again. Chan790 Jun 2014 #35

This is why the next presidential election is so important. Ash_F Jun 2014 #41

If they don't want to pay an agency fee. RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #46

never fully agreed with the I'm not a member but forced to pay rule PatrynXX Jun 2014 #48

I was part-time and paid dues CountAllVotes Jun 2014 #52

But you would still benefit from the the higher pay that the unions negotiate Ash_F Jun 2014 #53

+1,000 CountAllVotes Jun 2014 #54

So you are ok with a worker....... Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2014 #55

I won't lie, when I read the actual facts of the case, I felt for the plaintiff who sued the state. BlueEye Jun 2014 #56

Yeah, it looks like the court took this edge case and went wild. Ash_F Jun 2014 #57

Actually the opinion only applies to these home health care workers AngryAmish Jun 2014 #61

I'll hold off on declaring victory Ash_F Jun 2014 #62

You are right. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #64

Now we just need christx30 Jul 2014 #72