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JudyM

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45. This argument is so tiresome. Do you not realize that Bernie would've lost only if ardent Hillary
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 03:43 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 30, 2016, 05:03 PM - Edit history (2)

supporters didn't vote for him?

His ideas excited people far more, including the vast majority of under-30's and a corollary,
He didn't have a history of positions that many Dem and swing voters found too military-industrial
He had far, far higher trust and favorability ratings among likely voters... do you not see that to the extent that the Comey announcement was what did her in, then it was the trust issue that did her in.. And that hacking that folks are upset about? The damage to her campaign came from pulling back the curtain, not fabricating something untrue.

I spoke to thousands of Dem voters during the primaries, and many of those who were voting for Hillary were voting for her because she is a woman, not because they preferred her positions over Bernie's. They really liked Bernie, but were psyched about the historic value of a woman president. If Bernie were our GE candidate, he would've had all those votes. And most of the states where she beat him beyond a narrow margin, she herself (and WE) did not win in the GE.


Please show us the "hideous and brutal opposition research" that's nothing more than a phantom-meme. Folks who say it exists and would be oh so much worse than what Clinton was accused of, ok, if it's central to your thesis, lets see it!

this person and the videos should not be allowed on this site OKNancy Dec 2016 #1
This person and his videos truebluegreen Dec 2016 #2
Bottom line, there is something definitely wrong with the modus operand of the democratic RKP5637 Dec 2016 #3
I agree. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #6
If only "the left" voted for Clinton she would have gotten less than 100 electoral votes. George II Dec 2016 #19
Interesting. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #20
You're the one who referred to "the left". How do YOU define it? George II Dec 2016 #25
Nice attempt at a dodge, but I'll play anyway. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #28
Sorry, unlike you I'm not going to "play". I didn't attempt to categorize.... George II Dec 2016 #29
Nice try putting words in my mouth. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #30
To the DNC, "the Left" is anyone more radical than Dwight David Eisenhower. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #46
If democrat is not on 'the left' he is not a democrat. bowens43 Dec 2016 #35
I'm sure you know what the reference to the "left" in this discussion really means. George II Dec 2016 #39
This is harsh, but you might want to think about it. HassleCat Dec 2016 #4
+1!!! You can see in he responses here what Jimmy and King are talking about. Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #22
As he says, the corporate donors have infected their brains. We cannot think clearly when pleasing JudyM Dec 2016 #44
Truth hurts. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #5
Stupid burns (nt) William Seger Dec 2016 #34
Chalk up another one in the loss column. Stupid is right. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #38
She garnered almost 3 million more votes than dRump how is that losing? anniebelle Dec 2016 #7
Who is the president-elect? truebluegreen Dec 2016 #10
Unfortunately for many "democrats" they sulked and didn't vote at all. George II Dec 2016 #40
You're just determined to keep winning friends, aren't you? truebluegreen Dec 2016 #41
Never thought I'd see the day that an eleven year member of Democratic Underground.... George II Dec 2016 #42
Sad. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #43
I'm sure you are. George II Dec 2016 #47
Well, there's another example. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #11
Yes, perhaps we need to call on Putin for help next time anniebelle Dec 2016 #12
whoosch truebluegreen Dec 2016 #16
This country is not and never was a "democracy." spin Dec 2016 #27
It's losing according to the rules. We also got stomped on every other level. tecelote Dec 2016 #32
So hillary will be sworn in in January? If not she lost. bowens43 Dec 2016 #36
All of what you say is true, but it's irrelevant as a practical matter . . . markpkessinger Jan 2017 #48
All valid points thank you Jimmy and thanks for the video. 4bucksagallon Dec 2016 #8
He's pontificating and lecturing. None of this was objective analysis .. JHan Dec 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author bora13 Dec 2016 #13
He makes a valid point about Obama appointing a Republican to head the FBI. jalan48 Dec 2016 #14
He makes a valid point about Obama appointing a Republican to head the FBI. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #21
I like listening to Jimmy Dore at times War Horse Dec 2016 #15
But he's also got huge blinders on. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #24
This argument is so tiresome. Do you not realize that Bernie would've lost only if ardent Hillary JudyM Dec 2016 #45
senate house state leg. lost too! recount now Dec 2016 #17
Another WAY off base hit piece. George II Dec 2016 #18
Monday morning quarterback elmac Dec 2016 #23
We have to pull together and somehow stop them. raging moderate Dec 2016 #26
truth. K and R bbgrunt Dec 2016 #31
Easy answer: They cheated world wide wally Dec 2016 #33
That's what the right said about Obama....... bowens43 Dec 2016 #37
Oh goody. More Democrat bashing using complete bullshit. ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #49
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