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trof

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39. I'll say this for Carl Icahn (grudgingly)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:15 AM
Apr 2012

Frank Lorenzo had all but done a signed deal with management to take over TWA. That would have been the end of us, then and there.

From wiki:
"Francisco Anthony "Frank" Lorenzo[1][2] (born May 19, 1940) is an American businessman and philanthropist. He is most famous for his leadership of Texas International Airlines and its successor holding company Texas Air Corporation between 1972 and 1990, through which he formed or acquired a number of major U.S. airlines including Continental Airlines, Eastern Air Lines, Frontier Airlines, New York Air and Peoplexpress Airlines.

As an airline manager, he gained a reputation of union busting, stemming from his leadership during the 1983 bankruptcy of Continental Airlines that enabled the company to void its union contracts, and during the strike and bankruptcy of Eastern Airlines that eventually led to its permanent shutdown in 1991.[3] Lorenzo’s history is contentious, both “despised by unions and admired by airline strategists."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lorenzo

The pilots' union, figuring ANYTHING would be better than Lorenzo, actually made the pitch to Icahn. While slowly bleeding it dry, he at least kept TWA operating as its own entity for a few more (precious) years.

What is "grease one on?" Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #1
A really smooth landing. trof Mar 2012 #3
Yeah, they had to drag out the elevated platform for engine maintenance. trof Mar 2012 #6
Actually the #2 engine wasn't bad to work on IMO Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #31
Interesting story about the 'S' duct, the L-1011, and the DC-10. This may be a bit long... trof Apr 2012 #43
I've read some people in the industry say Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #44
I guess i'd agree. n/t trof Apr 2012 #45
Very plausible. Always thought that was a bizarre way of mounting the center engine Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #46
I can't believe how quickly they were getting the plane stopped even on a wet runway. pa28 Mar 2012 #2
A couple of well-detailed sim videos -- Love the worn, "survivor" look... Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #4
Boy, that takes me back. I was F/E on the 3 holer for a while. trof Apr 2012 #49
As I understand it the 727 wasn't initially manufactured with an APU. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2012 #5
Didn't know that. Thanks. trof Mar 2012 #7
I also meant to ask: Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #8
Never flew the DC-10 trof Apr 2012 #9
Do you miss the concept of a flight engineer? Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #11
I began at TWA as a flight engineer. trof Apr 2012 #13
The concept the FAA is promoting is the box flies the plane from start to finish Major Nikon Apr 2012 #19
I read Michael O'Leary was harping about the same thing Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #24
Progress. trof Apr 2012 #40
Progress for some, regression for others Major Nikon Apr 2012 #42
If it means anything, I'm very sorry about what happened with the Icahn mess Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #26
I'll say this for Carl Icahn (grudgingly) trof Apr 2012 #39
All anyone really needs to know about Frank is... av8rdave Apr 2012 #55
Having a flight engineer was great! av8rdave Apr 2012 #54
For those who haven't seen it: Original launch brochure Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #10
Worked on them earlier part in my career Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #12
Wow so the auto-spoilers deployed with wheel rotation rather than "weight on wheels"? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #14
Not dangerous at all. It's very common on other commercial airliners as well Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #15
Weight on wheels for autospoilers can actually be pretty dangerous av8rdave Apr 2012 #56
The rear airstairs had little winglets on them after DB Cooper.... TheMightyFavog Apr 2012 #16
We called it the 'Cooper switch' or 'Cooper lock'. trof Apr 2012 #20
I did some back research into that story Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #23
One of her relatives KT2000 Apr 2012 #17
Yeah, the military has gotten a lot of extended life out of the older frames Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #21
I've refueled from KC-135 many times. My first time was from a KC-97. trof Apr 2012 #22
Too slow for jets? But it has such a low drag coefficient and frontal profile!! Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #25
That's impressive KT2000 Apr 2012 #28
Most frightening thing I've ever done.* trof Apr 2012 #29
Love this - thank you KT2000 Apr 2012 #32
That's very gratifying. Thank you. trof Apr 2012 #35
This is a great great post! Thank you for sharing it petronius Apr 2012 #33
Thank you. trof Apr 2012 #36
That's amazing! Talk about a hairy situation... Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #37
A good tanker driver really helped. trof Apr 2012 #41
I have a refueling story for you, though I wasn't involved except on the maintenance end of it... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #47
Yeah, it happens. Here's my refueling/midair collision story: (Warning, another long one) trof Apr 2012 #48
Another good one! Thanks KT2000 Apr 2012 #53
It could have been a lot more exciting if Tex Johnston had been captain Major Nikon Apr 2012 #18
I haven't seen that video in many years av8rdave Apr 2012 #27
Oh yeah...memories. trof Apr 2012 #30
TWA had a CV 880 TheCentepedeShoes Apr 2012 #34
Ha! That coulda been me! trof Apr 2012 #38
Thanks for making me feel like I was riding along, trof. Ptah Apr 2012 #50
Thank you, Ptah. trof Apr 2012 #51
I've been told that the B-52 was like a fly-rod; flexible and fluid. Ptah Apr 2012 #52
During my 30 years as a mechanic BlueCollar Apr 2012 #57
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