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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. Two things I think came into play with what McCluskey did(I don't support suspensions, period)
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 02:34 PM
Feb 2017

1) According to the link, the meeting of some Labour MPs Coyne spoke was not concerned with the EU fight OR an occasion on which Coyne was there to fight for the needs of working people: It was a meeting of an organization, "Labour for the Common Good", that has been seen by many on the center-left and left as a potential second-SDP-in-the-making. Would you really expect any real union leader to think a new "radical centre" splinter party could possibly fight for working people or the poor or to want to see his deputy giving aid and comfort to such a group?

2) Coyne is challenging McCluskey from sharply to his right, on a "labour management cooperation", or unconditional surrender to the bosses platform. Given that labour-management cooperation pretty much always leads to union negotiators agreeing to every concession management ever demands, how is such a concept ever a way to fight for higher wages ad better conditions for the workers that union represents?

Are you sure McCluskey isn't just trying to defend his membership here?

Well, anything Chuka Umunna does is about trying to make Labour stand for nothing at all Ken Burch Jan 2017 #1
If this is how Unite treat other people in the Labour movement... T_i_B Jan 2017 #2
I didn't support what McCluskey did. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #3
Wrong T_i_B Jan 2017 #4
It's not about "ideological purity", it's about who you fight for. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #5
So you are supporting McCluskey's actions then. T_i_B Feb 2017 #6
No, I'm not supporting McCluskey's actions Ken Burch Feb 2017 #7
This is not about Corbyn, Umunna or McCluskey but about Remain/Leave and the RIGHT to fight against LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #8
As I said, I'd have voted Remain. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #9
Because at the moment leaving the EU is inextricably intertwined with anti-immigrant, racist policy LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Feb 2017 #11
Was this post intended for me? LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #12
I should have sent it to the person who started this thread Ken Burch Feb 2017 #13
I was responding specifically to your remark LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #16
Two things I think came into play with what McCluskey did(I don't support suspensions, period) Ken Burch Feb 2017 #14
Thank f**k you aren't my union rep T_i_B Feb 2017 #15
Is there any way to improve matters for UNITE's members.. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #17
The answer is by building coalitions T_i_B Feb 2017 #18
The members of the PLP who still want Corbyn out aren't PART of the left, though Ken Burch Feb 2017 #19
They absolutly are 100% part of the left T_i_B Feb 2017 #20
I've got nothing against Clive Lewis. Clive Lewis supports Jeremy as leader. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #21
Unite HQ Dworkin Feb 2017 #22
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