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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
20. There is a LOT of truth here, BUT
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 01:35 PM
Sep 2013

I truly loved this OP, as it explains a lot of the frustration I have with certain factions. I still remember being in Florida, having Nader voters yell at me after elections day, because they had heard the folks on right wing talk Radio brag about how they used the Naderites to make sure Gore Lost. Of course, their yelling at me was pre-emptive, even though I was holding back my "are you happy now" speech. As a note, I have heard all versions of the "Nader did not cost Gore the election" speech, and I will not ignore the simple math. Yes, a third party vote may be just fine in California, but as a resident of that one swing state, I KNOW I cannot treat voting as a game.

So when Obama turned out to be less leftish, I held my breath. After all, a lot of the Socialists still hate FDR with a passion, because he "saved capitalism" rather than let it die so that we could have that Fourth Communist International Comrade Trotsky promised us. Social Security was slammed as not being strong enough, yet it matured, so I was willing to see if ACA would bear the same fruit.

HOWEVER, the problem is, Obama turned into Bill Clinton, which is to say, someone who really, really thinks the Right is just misguided, the idea that "there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be fixed by what is right with America." The bad part of that is, it prevents us from healing the really deep flaws, namely the money worship and sacrament of war. Until Money and War are seen as tools, and not our reason for being, we can and will drift rightward, because we are playing the right's game on their turf, where they have the table tilted rightward. Obama has proven that he is not interested in replacing the table, he may do about 60 percent of the right thing, but only after a LOT of PRESSURE is placed, and even then, he always tries to curry the favor of those mythical "centrists" that the right has successfully compromised.

So,I have no problem putting pressure, because that is what works, that includes criticism,and my wallet. However, just because I see that the DLC is full of shit does not mean I do not see where people will use the FRONT of criticism just to snipe at everything not them.

Let me be real Blunt:

Jane Hamsher, I look forward to you making excuses for Hillary Clinton when she governs to Obama's right, doing things you would have made cute Racial jokes about Obama for doing.

Glenn Greenwald: All your civil liberty crap will mean nothign when the companies you like to worship do everything the Feds do and far, far worse. Until you apologize for your defense of Citizens United, which downgraded the very value of a person to just another corporate asset, I will not take you seriously, even if you drunkenly stumble into truth.

Medea Benjamin: I admired you until you made that valentine to Ron Paul. Care to explain to women why you had to enable one of the strongest Anti-Choice advocates? You could have easily called RP that "broken clock right twice a day" without a Valentine.

Arriana Huffington: You sure love giving Grover Norquist and Mark Penn space to bash Obama. If you think that I will forget the days when you were the Belle of the Right Wing ball, you are wrong.

Ted Rall: The supposed hard left communist that whines that the internet ruined his payday, and who slammed OWS and the Egyptians because they did not kill people. Who made use of the right wing slurs like calling Obama an example of "affirmative action."

I could go on and on, especially with Ralph "I have no problem taking right wing money" Nader.

And it is not that I do not see we need a hard left, but sadly, we have a lot less Bernie Sanders, people who try to explain to people what is happening, and a LOT more Dennis Kucinich, someone who will gladly take a payday on Fox network because it gives them a point to slam Obama, even though they hear Karl Rove popping champagne in the back room, because we load our circular firing squad again!

K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #1
The backlash against Bush was based on reality rurallib Sep 2013 #2
+1 n/t Triana Sep 2013 #4
"when the left criticizes Obama for legitimate purposes...they get thrown in with the RW crazies" BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #7
I see many of the purist's same arguments against Obama Cryptoad Sep 2013 #14
Yes, the real crazy was when DADT repeal passed treestar Sep 2013 #43
There's a way to fix that rlegro Sep 2013 #22
This is posted in The Barack Obama Group. We are a group not a forum. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #64
+1,000,000 Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #27
Absolutely. Obama hasn't lied us into war gopiscrap Sep 2013 #58
Hahah. Awesome... SidDithers Sep 2013 #3
Beware: The OP doesn't want debate, just provoking to get advertising hits from traffic to his blog. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #5
This is the BOG Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #53
It does not offend me. The OP comes to DU to promote his blog and that is the only thing. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #61
With respect, you don't know the owner of the blog. Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #63
Yes, There is that kind of left, and that kind of right. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #6
People will reject this thoughtful essay out of hand bc of where it came from mcar Sep 2013 #8
+1 SunSeeker Sep 2013 #10
wrong Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #55
How is he continuing to succeed (your summary sentence)? DhhD Sep 2013 #9
Could it be by listening to the Right, We the People, and to the Left in Congress DhhD Sep 2013 #12
Warning! This posted in the BOG. We are a group not a forum. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #66
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2013 #11
oops, didn't see this was the bog. KG Sep 2013 #13
Thank you KG. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #73
He's a different kind of President... fadedrose Sep 2013 #15
For eight years I thought they were extremely unhappy with bush...... George II Sep 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author SylviaD Sep 2013 #17
It's never the same behavior though treestar Sep 2013 #45
This is a BOG post. We are a group not a forum. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #65
Nailed it... SidDithers Sep 2013 #18
Exactly! +1000 VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #26
Malcontents. FSogol Sep 2013 #33
I don't think "screeches" is a useful word bhikkhu Sep 2013 #19
There is a LOT of truth here, BUT DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #20
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mahalo DonCoquixote Cha Sep 2013 #70
Tasty! Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #21
Like comparing apples to plastic oranges LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #23
there is nothing "moderate" about them... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #28
Yes because it is so radical LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #48
we GOT a change to the healthcare industry...it's not as radical has you had hoped...but there it is VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #49
No he did not. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author marmar Sep 2013 #24
This is a BOG Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #52
Why even use a phrase used by right wingers n/t Tveil Sep 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Pholus Sep 2013 #29
Again this is the BOG Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #39
Oops, you are absolutely right. My apologies. Pholus Sep 2013 #40
The thing that gets me is when Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #30
Good analysis. Much ODS feels like Glennbeckistan. freshwest Sep 2013 #31
I wish you would stop promoting that blog on DU. If people want to read that blog totodeinhere Sep 2013 #32
Now that I can see this thread Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #36
I specifically said that I am not a mod. So why do you accuse me of pretending to be totodeinhere Sep 2013 #41
Trash the group by clicking on the trash can Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #50
No one is putting a gun to anyone's head to read Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #42
That's what makes me angry Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #54
I love when they slink off to ATA to complain... SidDithers Sep 2013 #56
It still blows my mind away that they did that Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #59
Hi Coolest. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #72
Maybe I should spend some time there. I don't pay attention to it as this one Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #76
Well, as I've said before ... Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #71
Why is it wrong to promote a pro Democratic blog on DU? treestar Sep 2013 #46
Because that blog hides behind support of the president as a means to attack progressives. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #47
well if you don't like what we post in the BOG Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #51
What the real left is about. A post from 'Time For Change", go west young man Sep 2013 #34
I wanted to post one other article go west young man Sep 2013 #35
A REMINDER TO ALL YOU NAYSAYERS Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #37
edited - did not notice this was a BOG post, sorry!!!!! djean111 Sep 2013 #38
Fortunately, his real "supporters" have always had his back, which is the.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #44
Great post gopiscrap Sep 2013 #57
derangement= claiming to be anti war and then angry and bitter there is no war JI7 Sep 2013 #60
Obama Derangement Syndrome can be cured shenmue Sep 2013 #62
I rec'd your OP but am still putting out an SOS to mods to terminate the troll invaders. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #68
There was no such thing as Bush Derangement Syndrome. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #69
Why does this remind me of the"War on Christmas" . . . snot Sep 2013 #74
AMEN!! When I use the term, it is nothing like how it was used in reference to Dumbya! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #75
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