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LiberalLovinLug

(14,190 posts)
23. Like comparing apples to plastic oranges
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 01:43 PM
Sep 2013

BushCo. appeared moderate in his primary "No regime change type wars of agression"
Obama appeared moderate from the beginning "There are no red states or blue states only the United States.."

But that's where they veered.

Once Bush got in he thumbed his nose at the left. And vigorously pursued his neo-con PNAC agenda, while pampering his whacky Christos-fascist base to drown out voices of discontent. Forced out every moderate (the first was Paul O'Neil)

Once Obama got in he did not ignore the idiots on the right and also thumbed his nose at the left. His Chief of Staff called them "fucking retards". He decided he had to prove he wasn't just a lefty community organizer and bent over backwards to deliver the white flag to the frothing Republicans on the other side on issue after issue.

You know very well there was nothing but rapturous support from the left when he was first elected. He had the political capital and then some to ignore the backlash on FOX News (It didn't help because they just made up stuff to fill in for any REAL progressive stubbornness on his part) and push for things like Single Payer. If he would have achieved a Public Option...THAT is the moderate alternative most on the left would have accepted. In fact even if he had FOUGHT for it he would have garnered respect. At one time he said he would accept losing a second term to fight for what at the time was assumed, a public option.

You paint the moderate left as extremists. Because, in the case of healthcare, they only wanted what every other western democracy has - a Single Payer system....and even THEN were willing to accept a Public Option compromise. How is this extreme or anything like the birther/tea bagger racists onslaught from day one?

There was an incredible opportunity historically when he was elected to truly move the county forward, and Obama decided that it was to his benefit to play the Washington bubble game instead. You come across as rebuking those that can't just accept that at least he is better than having Dick Cheney as President. Sorry I expected a little more. Just because the GOP has slid off all the way into la la land to the far far right, does not mean Obama had to then slide right to fill in the gap behind them. He, and the country, missed a great opportunity. Of course many are hurt and sad about that.

K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #1
The backlash against Bush was based on reality rurallib Sep 2013 #2
+1 n/t Triana Sep 2013 #4
"when the left criticizes Obama for legitimate purposes...they get thrown in with the RW crazies" BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #7
I see many of the purist's same arguments against Obama Cryptoad Sep 2013 #14
Yes, the real crazy was when DADT repeal passed treestar Sep 2013 #43
There's a way to fix that rlegro Sep 2013 #22
This is posted in The Barack Obama Group. We are a group not a forum. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #64
+1,000,000 Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #27
Absolutely. Obama hasn't lied us into war gopiscrap Sep 2013 #58
Hahah. Awesome... SidDithers Sep 2013 #3
Beware: The OP doesn't want debate, just provoking to get advertising hits from traffic to his blog. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #5
This is the BOG Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #53
It does not offend me. The OP comes to DU to promote his blog and that is the only thing. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #61
With respect, you don't know the owner of the blog. Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #63
Yes, There is that kind of left, and that kind of right. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #6
People will reject this thoughtful essay out of hand bc of where it came from mcar Sep 2013 #8
+1 SunSeeker Sep 2013 #10
wrong Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #55
How is he continuing to succeed (your summary sentence)? DhhD Sep 2013 #9
Could it be by listening to the Right, We the People, and to the Left in Congress DhhD Sep 2013 #12
Warning! This posted in the BOG. We are a group not a forum. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #66
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2013 #11
oops, didn't see this was the bog. KG Sep 2013 #13
Thank you KG. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #73
He's a different kind of President... fadedrose Sep 2013 #15
For eight years I thought they were extremely unhappy with bush...... George II Sep 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author SylviaD Sep 2013 #17
It's never the same behavior though treestar Sep 2013 #45
This is a BOG post. We are a group not a forum. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #65
Nailed it... SidDithers Sep 2013 #18
Exactly! +1000 VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #26
Malcontents. FSogol Sep 2013 #33
I don't think "screeches" is a useful word bhikkhu Sep 2013 #19
There is a LOT of truth here, BUT DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #20
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mahalo DonCoquixote Cha Sep 2013 #70
Tasty! Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #21
Like comparing apples to plastic oranges LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #23
there is nothing "moderate" about them... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #28
Yes because it is so radical LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #48
we GOT a change to the healthcare industry...it's not as radical has you had hoped...but there it is VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #49
No he did not. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author marmar Sep 2013 #24
This is a BOG Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #52
Why even use a phrase used by right wingers n/t Tveil Sep 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Pholus Sep 2013 #29
Again this is the BOG Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #39
Oops, you are absolutely right. My apologies. Pholus Sep 2013 #40
The thing that gets me is when Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #30
Good analysis. Much ODS feels like Glennbeckistan. freshwest Sep 2013 #31
I wish you would stop promoting that blog on DU. If people want to read that blog totodeinhere Sep 2013 #32
Now that I can see this thread Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #36
I specifically said that I am not a mod. So why do you accuse me of pretending to be totodeinhere Sep 2013 #41
Trash the group by clicking on the trash can Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #50
No one is putting a gun to anyone's head to read Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #42
That's what makes me angry Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #54
I love when they slink off to ATA to complain... SidDithers Sep 2013 #56
It still blows my mind away that they did that Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #59
Hi Coolest. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #72
Maybe I should spend some time there. I don't pay attention to it as this one Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #76
Well, as I've said before ... Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #71
Why is it wrong to promote a pro Democratic blog on DU? treestar Sep 2013 #46
Because that blog hides behind support of the president as a means to attack progressives. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #47
well if you don't like what we post in the BOG Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #51
What the real left is about. A post from 'Time For Change", go west young man Sep 2013 #34
I wanted to post one other article go west young man Sep 2013 #35
A REMINDER TO ALL YOU NAYSAYERS Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #37
edited - did not notice this was a BOG post, sorry!!!!! djean111 Sep 2013 #38
Fortunately, his real "supporters" have always had his back, which is the.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #44
Great post gopiscrap Sep 2013 #57
derangement= claiming to be anti war and then angry and bitter there is no war JI7 Sep 2013 #60
Obama Derangement Syndrome can be cured shenmue Sep 2013 #62
I rec'd your OP but am still putting out an SOS to mods to terminate the troll invaders. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #68
There was no such thing as Bush Derangement Syndrome. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #69
Why does this remind me of the"War on Christmas" . . . snot Sep 2013 #74
AMEN!! When I use the term, it is nothing like how it was used in reference to Dumbya! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #75
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