Latin America

kenlayisalive

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2. Pay attention everyone

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:52 AM

Apr 2013

The 1% in Venezuela didn't get what they want and will murder and destroy until they get it.

Reminds Rightwing clown OP of the Arab Spring. Maybe he is excited about the possibilities of 60,000 deaths. Reminds me more of the Iraq War and coup in Chile though.

If there is anyone here who considers themselves to be a leftist and doesn't think that our fortunes are bound up with the poor people struggling for a better life in Venezuela, you are gravely fooling yourself.

We lose there, we lose here.

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Chavez supporters attack peaceful demonstration in Maracaibo CNE (video) [View all] joshcryer Apr 2013 OP

chavistas and violence go together like arroz y caraotas Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #1

Pay attention everyone kenlayisalive Apr 2013 #2

the 1% are the corrupt thieves currently in power n/t Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #4

And yet, they got 51%, mainly from the poor and working class. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #5

They lost 20 points. joshcryer Apr 2013 #8

No one knows what happens in the long run. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #10

They have a responsiblity to assure the citizens they won. joshcryer Apr 2013 #12

what do they have to fix? nt naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #13

Crime, corruption, shortages. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #15

Catherina told me there are no shortages naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #16

I speak for myself. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #20

"there's still no hard evidence of fraud" joshcryer Apr 2013 #30

Majority Rules naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #31

I would say its like the system we have here. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #36

fair enough nt. naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #39

Yes there is. mecherosegarden Apr 2013 #61

And that happens to sound like the USA since 9/11. n/t Daniel537 Apr 2013 #62

Capriles never espoused neoliberal policies. joshcryer Apr 2013 #18

Your right, he did pretend to be a populist for a while there. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #22

He governed as a social democrat for a decade. joshcryer Apr 2013 #28

Well his Cuba-bashing clearly didn't work either Daniel537 Apr 2013 #32

It gained him 20 points. joshcryer Apr 2013 #35

Apparently not. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #37

Another point and he would have. joshcryer Apr 2013 #40

Maybe, but he didn't get another week. So these are the results we have. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #42

Sounds more like Maduro has folks he needs to win over to govern. joshcryer Apr 2013 #46

He didn't say he would end the missions naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #33

And the people disagreed with him on that. n/t Daniel537 Apr 2013 #44

the chavistas are responsible for screwing up what needs fixing Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #14

And you don't get to make that call, pal. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #17

Oh, yeah, chavistas didn't jump ship at all. joshcryer Apr 2013 #19

Yes, they did for the most part. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #21

That's what they said to Al Gore. joshcryer Apr 2013 #25

Yeah but at least Gore actually won more votes than Bush. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #27

That's what they said to Kerry. joshcryer Apr 2013 #29

And i don't believe there was fraud in Ohio in 2004. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #41

You didn't support calls for investigations into fraud? joshcryer Apr 2013 #45

I support investigations backed-up with facts. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #49

You seem to believe that I think Capriles won 100% or something. joshcryer Apr 2013 #51

But its not up to Maduro to start a recount. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #53

If he requested them to do it they would be obliged. joshcryer Apr 2013 #57

Oh, I am more than willing to accept an accurate result even if they voted for the clown Maduro Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #24

Look at this 1%ers house: joshcryer Apr 2013 #6

yes, it's about the 99% and the history of US imperialism in Latin America flamingdem Apr 2013 #52

Oh yeah, the opposition is so peaceful Daniel537 Apr 2013 #3

Capriles never called for violence. joshcryer Apr 2013 #7

No, but he was happily inciting it. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #9

In the next breath he'd call for a peaceful process. joshcryer Apr 2013 #11

WTF are you talking about? ocpagu Apr 2013 #64

Spoke too soon. joshcryer Apr 2013 #65

BTW, I posted plenty of "violent protest" media here. joshcryer Apr 2013 #23

The US wants what Capriles is doing. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #26

Sure, the US is happy Capriles is suiciding. joshcryer Apr 2013 #34

I'm sure most Capriles supporters have "claims" of fraud. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #38

The CNE hasn't even seen the allegations formally. joshcryer Apr 2013 #43

But what exactly are the "grievances"? Daniel537 Apr 2013 #47

It's numerous. joshcryer Apr 2013 #48

Well then that's up to the CNE to decide. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #50

Do you have the same opinion.. naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #54

Is Tibisay Lucena a member of the Maduro campaign/administration? n/t Daniel537 Apr 2013 #56

Sure. joshcryer Apr 2013 #55

The "leaders" of the opposition certainly are fascist. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #58

I have listened to hundreds of Capriles speeches. joshcryer Apr 2013 #59

I'm not just talking about Capriles. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #60

I've only focused mainly on Capriles. joshcryer Apr 2013 #63