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Environment & Energy

Nihil

(13,508 posts)

31. Whilst not as pessimistic as you, I thought that was a good post - thanks.

Reply to GliderGuider (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:42 AM

Nov 2013

Some of the petty bickering across so many threads recently really *does* match
your description of the meeting of opposing evangelists but you get a bonus kick
for this line:

> Their messages are full of the fluffy bunny-ears of hope and the fangs of contempt

So true, so accurate and so resented by the prophets!

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Either China's screwed, or everybody is. [View all] GliderGuider Nov 2013 OP

Unsustainable energy-base is just one of many destabilizing factors in China. DetlefK Nov 2013 #1

China can't reprise the European industrial revolution. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #6

"They don't have enough other energy resources..." kristopher Nov 2013 #2

Economies require energy. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #4

You said they don't have the resources. kristopher Nov 2013 #7

I know Canada is doing badly. I'm not talking about Canada. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #9

Maybe you SHOULD be talking about Canada. kristopher Nov 2013 #11

Why, so I'll stop talking about really uncomfortable things? GliderGuider Nov 2013 #12

I was thinking you might be motivated ... kristopher Nov 2013 #13

I yam what I yam, kristopher. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #16

China has a lot of solar potential Demeter Nov 2013 #3

What's the source for your extrapolation? FBaggins Nov 2013 #5

The data is from the BP Statistical Review. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #10

Sorry... once again? FBaggins Nov 2013 #14

Those are my curve fits to the BP data. nt GliderGuider Nov 2013 #15

Surely you know that you can't do that? FBaggins Nov 2013 #17

So both the pro- and anti-nuke camps think this is bad juju. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #18

Which should tell you something FBaggins Nov 2013 #19

Actually, GliderGuider Nov 2013 #20

Nope. FBaggins Nov 2013 #21

Here's how I see it. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #23

Well, no matter what one is "selling," be it a vision of disaster or something else, curve... NNadir Nov 2013 #27

I've banished two words from my vocabulary: "should" and "hope" GliderGuider Nov 2013 #29

Whilst not as pessimistic as you, I thought that was a good post - thanks. Nihil Nov 2013 #31

Glad you liked it! GliderGuider Nov 2013 #32

100 million tons of coal for China pscot Nov 2013 #8

100 million tons of coal will produce 286 million tons of CO2 byproduct ??? CRH Nov 2013 #22

It's EIA, though output will vary a bit - grade of coal, efficiency of combustion, etc. hatrack Nov 2013 #24

He's not that wrong. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #25

"1 short ton (2,000 pounds) of this coal will generate about 5,720 pounds (2.86 short tons)" kristopher Nov 2013 #26

Basic chemistry FBaggins Nov 2013 #28

Something else to note: GliderGuider Nov 2013 #30