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In reply to the discussion: Gun nut kills five in Seattle shooting spree...he collected guns AND had a concealed carry permit. [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)91. O.K. I went to the site ...
what exactly was I supposed to learn?
Thanks for dropping by the home of The Liberal Gun Club. We are a gun owners organization whose main goal is to provide relevant information to firearms owners. What makes us distinct from most other gun organizations is that we believe that reasonable gun regulations are a good thing. We are geared toward typical liberals who also happen to enjoy owning and using firearms; however, our members come from every political idealogy Libertarian, Independent, Democrat, Republican, Green, etc. Many liberals own guns but do not agree with the ideals of right wing gun organizations. Since many ranges, especially those controlled by local gun clubs, require membership in right wing gun groups whose views are in opposition to their own, many owners simply never get the chance to operate their weapons, and do not have a reliable source about how to properly handle and care for their firearm. A gun owner who is unfamiliar with his or her weapon is unlikely to use it properly, especially in an emergency situation.
In order to encourage fun and safe shooting among liberal gun owners, we want to provide as much information as possible to make choosing, owning, caring for and using a firearm easier.
http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/about-us/who/
Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a DKos group of second amendment supporters who also have progressive and liberal values. We dont think that being a liberal means one has to be anti-gun. Some of us are extreme in our second amendment views (no licensing, no restrictions on small arms) and some of us are more moderate (licensing, restrictions on small arms.) Moderate or extreme or somewhere in between, we hold one common belief: more gun control equals lost elections. We dont want a repeat of 1994. We are an inclusive group: if you see the Second Amendment as safeguarding our right to keep and bear arms individually, then come join us in our conversation. If you are against the right to keep and bear arms, come join our conversation. We look forward to seeing you, as long as you engage in a civil discussion.
http://www.theliberalgunclub.com//
The views expressed at this site seem to mirror mine. I am not opposed to "reasonable gun regulations." I personally feel that the firearm regulations in Florida are reasonable although many very liberal Democrats will disagree.
This site appears to accept my views although it welcomes those who wish stronger restrictions. I personally believe that individual states should be able to establish their own firearm laws as long as they do not infringe on the basic right for citizens to keep and bear firearms. For example I feel that the firearm laws in Illinois are inappropriate and draconian. I also feel that the firearm laws in New York City or Washington D.C. are designed to make owning or carrying a firearm unnecessarily expensive and difficult.
I agree that many good Democrats have lost elections because of what is perceived to be the views on gun control of our party that some very vocal and prominent elected Democratic politicians have expressed. While it may insure their reelection to office in their area of the nation, it hurts our party in other states.
Perhaps I missed something or possibly you replied to the wrong post.
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Gun nut kills five in Seattle shooting spree...he collected guns AND had a concealed carry permit. [View all]
Cali_Democrat
May 2012
OP
He's just one of those gun lovers that you guys would have hugged in photos as a law-abiding
Hoyt
May 2012
#16
I can tell you this Slack, I see no reason to keep coddling those who want more guns in society.
Hoyt
May 2012
#19
I know Ileus, you are trying to accumulate best gun for all uses including shooting those fleeing
Hoyt
May 2012
#25
You can start with the thread you wrote about what gun everyone would choose while Hurricane Irene
Hoyt
May 2012
#30
My apologies. You did not start that thread. You did join in the callous discussion though.
Hoyt
May 2012
#47
That was a callous thread- not a one of your posts impelled anyone to do anything differently.
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2012
#82
Tbaggers are probably the biggest group of gun owners, toters, NRA members, bloggers on Stormfront
Hoyt
May 2012
#27
Yep, and majority are domestic or among criminals too. Yet you guys want to carry in churches, etc.
Hoyt
May 2012
#50
Quit being obtuse -- I'm talking toting in public parks, restaurants, stores, city streets, ETC.
Hoyt
May 2012
#59
I bet my rear you aren't going to the church in "shitty neighborhood." Is that why you carry, to
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#124
Not surprisingly, those in burbs often fear those in"shitty" areas, as you describe it.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#127
That's an acceptable reason to carry IMO -- to keep someone from dragging you into a church.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#125
The guy was a nut, with a gun. Not a gun nut. I'll rant against gun nuts but this guy was just menta
uppityperson
May 2012
#54
Agree with that. But we don't have to make it easy on folks like this, Zimmerman, etc., to kill
Hoyt
May 2012
#71
Kind of embarrassing to be gun advocate, carrier, etc., when something like this happens, isn't it?
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#78
So, when someone gets killed by a licenced driver, all licenced drivers are at fault.
PavePusher
Jun 2012
#87
Yep. And everybody with a computer that has Net access is responsible for this guy:
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2012
#89
We are not talking cars -- we are talking lethal weapons that you guys lobby on behalf of.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#94
Cars are very much lethal weapons, and with a far higher accidental death rate.
PavePusher
Jun 2012
#116
I feel absolutely no responsibility, shame, or embarrassment from any action that was not my fault
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#93
Many of my students have been children and teens. None had ever handled a firearm previously.
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#97
I'm safe with the gun I carry on my town's streets, safe when I go into the supermarket with it,
SGMRTDARMY
Jun 2012
#98
Zimmerman and Stawicki were "safe" too, right up until circumstances changed and they shot someone.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#106
No, but because NRA and gun "advocates" try to make them acceptable -- we end up with this.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#115
Your surprise only underscores how rare this combination of circumstances is.
krispos42
Jun 2012
#114
You should edit this again. I don't particularly care about "gun nut", but using "nut"
petronius
May 2012
#72
but, slurs against the mentally ill is NOT ok. Nut is a derogatory term and in this case it
Tuesday Afternoon
Jun 2012
#120
What are you going to "alert" on -- somebody posted story of CCWer who killed 5 innocent people.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#96
Hoyt rails impotently at a shadowy group he calls "you guys" and attempts to associate them...
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#99
Hey, Zimmerman captures in one word what a law-abiding gun owner is like right up until they shoot
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#104
the slur against the mentally ill AND the slur equating gun owner with being Mentally Ill.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jun 2012
#119