Gun Control & RKBA

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Action put off on guns-in-parks issue [View all] SecularMotion Jan 2012 OP

Another interesting quote.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #1

It looks like the idea to to make sure honest citizens do no have firearms in a park... spin Jan 2012 #2

How about no guns in the parks. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #3

Great idea... liberal_biker Jan 2012 #4

There are all kinds of detection devices available. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #7

So every public place in America should have metal detectors? Really? hack89 Jan 2012 #8

If it saves lives, why not? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #10

Why not? liberal_biker Jan 2012 #11

Stick around, you'll witness all kinds of things around here. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #20

What insult? n/t liberal_biker Jan 2012 #21

Is this how you normally walk into a room full of strangers? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #22

If someone says something disgusting liberal_biker Jan 2012 #23

I find it offensive that you put individual gun carrying above public safety. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #31

"Parks are for recreation, not shootouts." X_Digger Jan 2012 #33

"...get criminals to agree with that." Yep. That usually ends the debate.... SteveW Jan 2012 #86

Actually I put individual safety above unfounded fears liberal_biker Jan 2012 #38

"Incidentally, I don't play with my guns." Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #48

Your desire to live a world where honest people can't carry firearms... spin Jan 2012 #54

My desire is to live in a world where nobody carries handguns in public. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #57

No, I don't share that desire... spin Jan 2012 #60

How sad! Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #61

That's just simple reality... spin Jan 2012 #62

Those rose-colored glasses clash with reality. n/t X_Digger Jan 2012 #66

That is not a bad start. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #64

"Stick around, you'll witness all kinds of things around here." Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #47

Nice one. With distortions like that, I assume you don't belief in karma. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #89

How are you going to pay for it all? They are cutting education right now hack89 Jan 2012 #14

Why cut education and healthcare? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #18

Because education and social services are the biggest chunk of local budgets hack89 Jan 2012 #24

Take it out of those HS dollars. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #27

What money.... liberal_biker Jan 2012 #28

Free clue: The police have no legal responsibility to protect you. X_Digger Jan 2012 #32

Do you appreciate how minuscule the gun economy is hack89 Jan 2012 #36

"the privileged elite who like to fly over America,"? rl6214 Jan 2012 #78

More tax on gun sales. ellisonz Jan 2012 #19

Sales taxes are a state issue - good luck with that. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #25

A federal tax on firearms purchases? liberal_biker Jan 2012 #29

Pssst, there already is one. PavePusher Jan 2012 #50

Hence "more"... ellisonz Jan 2012 #55

Not if it is for the purpose of restricting 2A. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #87

If it saves lives, we can hire every other person to be a cop and follow the other people around.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #16

Ok so your solution is.... liberal_biker Jan 2012 #9

Watch a lot of movies, do you? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #12

Somebody has to monitor the output liberal_biker Jan 2012 #13

One person can monitor a lot of input. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #52

I think you're far too optimistic about this technology, and too cavalier about the BoR petronius Jan 2012 #30

I guess we'll see what violation of privacy can be shown. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #34

What the fuck makes a park sacred? X_Digger Jan 2012 #37

"Do criminals avoid the parks due to its 'sacredness'?!?" Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #53

"No, but they should".. When they do, we'll chat. X_Digger Jan 2012 #63

A park-cum-prison? In your mind, maybe. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #71

"No, but they should" PavePusher Jan 2012 #69

What on earth do you mean? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #70

"No, but [criminals] should." They will be blinded by the glare of your logic... SteveW Jan 2012 #88

If you feel that going to the park means engaging in self defense Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #91

If it's not firearms it'll just be something else. So really, a better solution would petronius Jan 2012 #92

Uh, no. You miss-read again... SteveW Jan 2012 #94

You don't think so? liberal_biker Jan 2012 #39

Why would a park be sacred? petronius Jan 2012 #51

And how is that surveillance going to stop someone from taking a gun into a park? rl6214 Jan 2012 #80

Wow. Maybe we could have TSA agents at the gates to the parks... spin Jan 2012 #15

Too much TV and movies in your life. Not enough reality. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #26

Precisely the opposite liberal_biker Jan 2012 #40

So you set up a metal detector at the gates to a park... spin Jan 2012 #41

Yea, the criminals might dig a tunnel to take their guns into the park. Hoyt Jan 2012 #46

So you support a surveillance state? Patriot Act didn't go far enough for you? nt hack89 Jan 2012 #43

I do not support the Patriot Act or a surveillance state. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #59

Which means that in public places citizens are been surveilled by the government hack89 Jan 2012 #65

That *is* a surveillance state. X_Digger Jan 2012 #67

A dense metal detector is a search? What drivel. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #72

Yesterday's SCOTUS decision must have caused your authoritarian streak to squeak, eh? X_Digger Jan 2012 #74

Got me pegged, don't you? You must live in a very isolated place. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #79

"secure in their persons" - ring a bell? -- fuck that anti-4th amendment noise. X_Digger Jan 2012 #81

Explain, please, how it is not a search. It is looking for something... PavePusher Jan 2012 #75

It is detecting objects in a given area, not focusing on individuals. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #76

This is, effectively, an X-ray, although by a slightly different mechanism. PavePusher Jan 2012 #83

Spam deleted by petronius (MIR Team) Kingfounds Nov 2012 #95

Did I miss something somewhere? one-eyed fat man Jan 2012 #73

And when you go to an ATM you are giving your consent. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #82

"Walking down the street you are giving your consent." PavePusher Jan 2012 #84

Sure you are unless you wear a mask. It's de facto consent. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #90

If you can not see the difference between a camera (and I oppose those, by the way).... PavePusher Jan 2012 #93

Giving consent to be seen, perhaps (even by a camera) petronius Jan 2012 #85

And you are going to have an armed cop by the entrance metal detectors rl6214 Jan 2012 #77

How many crimes do you think get committed in those parks now? Not many and certainly not enough Hoyt Jan 2012 #44

That depends on the park... spin Jan 2012 #58

So, how much are the fences and security check-points going to cost? PavePusher Jan 2012 #6

Oh, God, the "we can't afford it" arguement . . . . . .so often used by right wing obstructionists. Hoyt Jan 2012 #45

You find the money for it, I'll consider it. Good luck. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #49

How about you support 6ft of fencing, we'll even put a plaque up with your name like anti-littering. X_Digger Jan 2012 #68

Another interesting quote... Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #5

any decision on if they plan to allow criminals with guns into country parks? ileus Jan 2012 #17

More importantly. Glassunion Jan 2012 #35

They aren't allowed now.. liberal_biker Jan 2012 #42