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still_one

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51. They were pretty adamant, and "believed whatever the word of God said"

Reply to trotsky (Reply #45)

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:07 PM

Mar 2015

through the bible, not questioning

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Faith Based Medicine is Snake Oil [View all] cbayer Mar 2015 OP

There is also the placebo effect still_one Mar 2015 #1

meaning what? Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #3

Meaning that if someone is given a sugar pill, they sometimes still_one Mar 2015 #4

Not sure how that ties in here. cbayer Mar 2015 #5

Good point, not the same as faith healing for sure still_one Mar 2015 #6

OTOH, I think you raise an interesting idea. cbayer Mar 2015 #7

Can you get any more irresponsible? phil89 Mar 2015 #9

Lol. Do you honestly think I am making the case for faith based medicine cbayer Mar 2015 #10

Read her last paragraph. okasha Mar 2015 #19

I threw that in there as an aside. There is no way the OP was recommending it, especially for a still_one Mar 2015 #22

Perhaps it may trigger an immune response, however, the OP's point is pretty clear, that kids die still_one Mar 2015 #16

I think there is an often overlooked psychosomatic component to many illnesses. cbayer Mar 2015 #17

of course not. I should not have brought it into this thread, because it could be interpreted the still_one Mar 2015 #25

the flipside wih faith based which makes it more dangerous Lordquinton Mar 2015 #61

I agree with you. I think faith based medicine that is used in place cbayer Mar 2015 #62

Well, the placebo effect does not cure disease. longship Mar 2015 #11

Lying is forbidden, but placebos can be used. cbayer Mar 2015 #12

The evidence that placebos out preform no treatment edhopper Mar 2015 #13

Agree, but there are all kinds of effects that are subjective. cbayer Mar 2015 #14

No edhopper Mar 2015 #24

Where did I say there was a cure for the common cold? cbayer Mar 2015 #26

That's what I thought you where saying edhopper Mar 2015 #28

Of course not, but there are rare case where remissions have occurred when conventional treatments still_one Mar 2015 #27

Yup, you are correct. longship Mar 2015 #31

No legitimate doctor would. You are right on that. still_one Mar 2015 #38

I've actually had to point out to relations on facebook... gcomeau Mar 2015 #20

Sure, if religion were evidence based and rational Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #2

Is religion at odds with science, or people's interpretation of religion. A person can have faith, still_one Mar 2015 #29

What is the difference? Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #32

There are religious people who do not take the bible literally, and those that do, and I guess that still_one Mar 2015 #36

Nobody takes the bible "literally". Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #39

Not sure if I agree. I have come across those who sure do still_one Mar 2015 #40

They may think they do... trotsky Mar 2015 #45

They were pretty adamant, and "believed whatever the word of God said" still_one Mar 2015 #51

It has been my experience edhopper Mar 2015 #42

the "literalists" have a hermeneutic analytic framework Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #47

That is true edhopper Mar 2015 #50

You don't have any proof that it is. trotsky Mar 2015 #8

Of course, you never do that, do you? longship Mar 2015 #15

You bet I did. trotsky Mar 2015 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author longship Mar 2015 #21

No, just abject hypocrisy. longship Mar 2015 #23

Yes, you need to speak to your friend about these things, I agree. trotsky Mar 2015 #30

I tend not to make personal attacks. longship Mar 2015 #33

LOL trotsky Mar 2015 #35

I do hold them. longship Mar 2015 #37

You address your friends, then I'll do what you order. trotsky Mar 2015 #41

Order? Man, I don't know what to say to that. longship Mar 2015 #43

Bye, longship. trotsky Mar 2015 #44

I offered a choice, which you rejected. longship Mar 2015 #46

Oh, for fuck's sake. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2015 #64

The thing about ignore is that it is not commutative. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #48

I understand that, Warren. longship Mar 2015 #49

It wasn't out of left field. It was solidly grounded in the ongoing dialog here. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #52

So what if she does that? longship Mar 2015 #53

The "stalking and bullying" is in your head. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #54

It is when the post is a personal attack and person is on ignore. longship Mar 2015 #55

it was not a non-sequitur, it was not a personal attack, it was directly relevant. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #56

As I posted earlier, knowing he was on ignore, why the personal attack? longship Mar 2015 #57

He has no idea what the state of cbayer's ignore list is, nor do you. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #58

Why would anybody support personal attacks on this forum? longship Mar 2015 #59

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Thank you, Mr. Blur, for making my point perfectly. longship Mar 2015 #63

I went down to the crossroads, fell down on my knees Jim__ Mar 2015 #34