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cbayer

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31. Lol That's a good one.

Reply to LeftishBrit (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 11:47 AM

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Do primates practice religion? [View all] cbayer Jun 2013 OP

The primates certainly mourn their dead, and provide them as dimbear Jun 2013 #1

Also recommend Chimpanzee Politics. cbayer Jun 2013 #3

This is hearsay LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #57

If they do, the implication is that religion is a part of our nature. Jim__ Jun 2013 #2

Interesting about group dance and agree about it being a powerful community cbayer Jun 2013 #4

People are primates Android3.14 Jun 2013 #5

OK, the title may miss the point, but the book and the review are not about humans. cbayer Jun 2013 #6

Religious people don't want to acknowledge that inconvenient fact NoOneMan Jun 2013 #65

That's what always frustrated me with Dawkins. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #7

Evolution does not have a purpose so there can be no "pinnacle of evolution" Fumesucker Jun 2013 #9

"Pinnacle of evolution" napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #15

We are not remotely evolved to fit a civilization of billions Fumesucker Jun 2013 #17

typo. Should have read "theist families". napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #18

Atheists basically didn't exist a few thousand years ago Fumesucker Jun 2013 #19

Well sure they did. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #20

I was thinking more three to four thousand years BP Fumesucker Jun 2013 #24

It doesn't matter what I care about. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #21

Nature doesn't care about anything, that's anthropomorphism Fumesucker Jun 2013 #22

You say -- LTX Jun 2013 #29

Biological evolution in humans is quite slow due to our long generations Fumesucker Jun 2013 #38

I'm not following. LTX Jun 2013 #48

Evidently we don't share a common definition of the term "biological evolution" Fumesucker Jun 2013 #49

We evidently don't. Perhaps you can tell me your definition. LTX Jun 2013 #51

Indeed, one former Catholic once told me... trotsky Jun 2013 #25

Evolution indeed has a purpose. LTX Jun 2013 #26

Purpose implies intelligence, evolution certainly has effects but it is not intelligent Fumesucker Jun 2013 #28

I think you have boxed up evolution a little too tightly. LTX Jun 2013 #32

Purposeful trial and error has a lot higher success rate than does evolution Fumesucker Jun 2013 #34

As I said, I think you are boxing up evolution too tightly. LTX Jun 2013 #35

The fact that the products of natural biological evolution skepticscott Jun 2013 #41

Again, please see my posts 32 and 35. n/t LTX Jun 2013 #43

You still have failed utterly to show skepticscott Jun 2013 #47

Ok. You win. LTX Jun 2013 #50

Ok. I'll add -- LTX Jun 2013 #45

Which still doesn't mean that forces driving natural biological evolution skepticscott Jun 2013 #46

You say -- LTX Jun 2013 #52

None of which is in dispute skepticscott Jun 2013 #53

Evolution has outcomes and results, even trends skepticscott Jun 2013 #39

Please see my posts 32 and 35. n/t LTX Jun 2013 #40

Saw them. See my post 41 skepticscott Jun 2013 #42

Your post 41 is purely conclusory. LTX Jun 2013 #44

Fascinating take on this. It's an argument I haven't previously heard. cbayer Jun 2013 #11

Its all the same argument really. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #16

If you can identify a biologist who has actually claimed that... trotsky Jun 2013 #27

Are you attacking the spirit of what I'm saying, or my wording? napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #54

I'm doing neither. trotsky Jun 2013 #55

Have you ever looked to see what Dawkins himself says? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #56

Yeah, I've read his books. I enjoy that clip. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #59

I don't think you can identify an 'optimal state of information' for a species muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #60

What I'm refering to is units of cultural information acting as genes. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #62

But memes aren't part of biology muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #63

Genes are information. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #64

very interesting.... madrchsod Jun 2013 #8

Hope you are able to find it. I am on a road trip and would like to find it on audio. cbayer Jun 2013 #13

Thinking about religion rationally, and religiousity being innate are not mutually exclusive. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #10

How does it make it less valid? cbayer Jun 2013 #12

Rather than being revealed truth from prophets and magical beings Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #14

+1 \n Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #23

+2 cleanhippie Jun 2013 #33

Well put. And we can look at many things that clearly conferred an evolutionary advantage... trotsky Jun 2013 #36

+3 /n Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #61

Well... LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #30

Lol That's a good one. cbayer Jun 2013 #31

There's a prominent Brit biologist--Sir Solly Zuckerman, I think-- okasha Jun 2013 #37

Of course they do LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #58