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LostOne4Ever

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47. I am not going to excuse his comments

Thu Sep 12, 2013, 10:53 AM

Sep 2013

Last edited Thu Sep 12, 2013, 01:25 PM - Edit history (1)

They were out of line.

However, I have to note that he was a victim of abuse himself; and I can't help but wonder if his marginalization of his experience might be due to stockholm syndrome. If so then he might be more traumatized by what happened than what he thinks.

Of course im not a shrink, but I can't help but wonder.

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Richard Dawkins under fire for ‘mild pedophilia’ remarks [View all] rug Sep 2013 OP

Saw this one earlier. longship Sep 2013 #1

Yeah, PZ really laid into him over this. rug Sep 2013 #2

The title makes it seem like Dawkins did it instead of forgiving those that do coldmountain Sep 2013 #4

Just to clarify further, he seems to be dismissing it as not a real problem, cbayer Sep 2013 #5

Exactly. And he has a history of doing that. Crunchy Frog Sep 2013 #49

Link to PZ Myers piece on this: cbayer Sep 2013 #6

Is he purposefully flaming out or does he thrive on creating outrage. cbayer Sep 2013 #3

Interestingly, it's not pedophilia alone he minimizes, but the scandals themselves. rug Sep 2013 #7

This is what he wrote in The God Delusion cbayer Sep 2013 #13

Hmm, I'll have to think on that one. rug Sep 2013 #15

He is saying what is true for him. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #8

Or putting the hand down the pants in the first place is sort of ok. rug Sep 2013 #9

He was talking about past standards versus modern standard. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #11

He's 72. The standards he tolerates are at best only 60 years old. rug Sep 2013 #12

Yes, that is why he used the term "decades." nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #16

In the same sentence ha said 18th century. rug Sep 2013 #17

Yes, he started with a commonly accepted premise, ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #18

All to express a mild disapproval. rug Sep 2013 #20

Yes. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #23

Well, gee. okasha Sep 2013 #26

If you care to accept arguments from authority, feel free skepticscott Sep 2013 #58

As far as I know, sexual fondling of children by adults has never been acceptable Crunchy Frog Sep 2013 #50

Where has Dawkins said skepticscott Sep 2013 #60

Incorrect. He says he knows this particular person did it to others and he doesn't cbayer Sep 2013 #10

He stated it as an opinion about people he personally knows. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #14

I think you are defending the indefensible here, ZH. cbayer Sep 2013 #22

I was molested too... Silent3 Sep 2013 #45

There are lots of people who have been molested and suffer no irreparable harm. cbayer Sep 2013 #46

Minimizing and denying the consequences chervilant Sep 2013 #51

You see, that's just what I mean Silent3 Sep 2013 #53

Now see, that's just what I DIDN'T do... chervilant Sep 2013 #59

You're telling me I'm implicitly blaming others... Silent3 Sep 2013 #61

Nope, wrong again. chervilant Sep 2013 #62

So you're blaming and attacking the victim here? skepticscott Sep 2013 #24

Yes. Yes he is. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #33

She skepticscott Sep 2013 #34

His words suggest Dawkins is, if not condoning, tolerating the perpetrators. rug Sep 2013 #35

Yes, rather like all of those people raped by priests skepticscott Sep 2013 #36

You're late with that canard. rug Sep 2013 #37

The question is skepticscott Sep 2013 #39

No, the question is, do you defend the term "mild pedophilia"? rug Sep 2013 #40

So you're going to keep attacking him skepticscott Sep 2013 #41

So you're going to keep defending his view of "mild pedophilia"? rug Sep 2013 #42

I doubt you can even give a coherent explanation skepticscott Sep 2013 #63

Defend it. Go on. rug Sep 2013 #64

Where have I defended anything? skepticscott Sep 2013 #65

Oh, you don't defend the statement? Good. Now reject it. rug Sep 2013 #66

As expected skepticscott Sep 2013 #67

I'm not playing your games. Those are his words and they're patent. rug Sep 2013 #68

Elton John libodem Sep 2013 #19

I'm not going to minimize it. rug Sep 2013 #21

It is a very tough subject to discuss rationally libodem Sep 2013 #25

I do agree that it's a sensitive subject. rug Sep 2013 #28

If it's not a problem Politicalboi Sep 2013 #27

What a guy shenmue Sep 2013 #29

Oh dear Dicky, Dicky, Dicky! Looks like you came a real cropper this time. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #30

Why is he speaking for others? "any of us"? NT Trillo Sep 2013 #31

the same reason hundreds of shitheads converged around not-Ground Zero in 2010 MisterP Sep 2013 #56

What is mild pedophilia? Sounds creepy. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #32

It is beyond creepy. He has also made excuses for the heinous crimes of the RCC. cbayer Sep 2013 #38

And again, it helps to take these kinds of remarks in context. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #43

The interview, and a short excerpt from the autobiography: muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #44

I am not going to excuse his comments LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #47

Richard Dawkins has been losing it for awhile. Crunchy Frog Sep 2013 #48

what he's steadily losing is his reputation, current and posthumous carolinayellowdog Sep 2013 #52

If you want to know about some of the issues with their conferences Crunchy Frog Sep 2013 #54

The money line: okasha Sep 2013 #57

+1 cbayer Sep 2013 #55