2016 Postmortem

roguevalley

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61. i personally don't believe this can be mitigated to make it other than what it is

Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:37 PM

Jan 2016

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undercutting the president is just odious

sticking your face into a process still undergoing with the intention of being reactionary and oppositional is just despicable

seeking sanctions when the country has made a mutual agreement and released everyone. Are they even on our soil yet before she said this?

And lastly, WTF!?

This is ineptitude of a scale I never expected. She's in a bubble and has no idea of what she does and how it looks. She will never get my vote. This is very, very unnerving.

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NOT THE ONION: Clinton calls for new sanctions on Iran [View all] ram2008 Jan 2016 OP

Holy cow,what gives with this. Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #1

She is a neocon cali Jan 2016 #3

Zactly! floriduck Jan 2016 #23

+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #76

Yep, a rabid, bloodthirsty one. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #165

sounds like Old Codger Jan 2016 #93

She is trying to drag Bernie in to more debates. Don't deal with her. DhhD Jan 2016 #111

Hillary tougher than thou and them. cali Jan 2016 #2

... kristopher Jan 2016 #52

That isn't only disturbing, it causes vertigo cali Jan 2016 #55

Agree; that's how the action in the OP affects me too. kristopher Jan 2016 #100

That's all we are, just another brick in the wall. Unknown Beatle Jan 2016 #174

Bad move by the Clinton team just saltpoint Jan 2016 #4

She was secretary of state. This might be what she believes is right and not a political move. mucifer Jan 2016 #8

It is timed moments after the lifting of saltpoint Jan 2016 #11

Yeah, and her record at State is my strongest reason for opposing her cali Jan 2016 #13

Mine too, and this ices it. n/t ljm2002 Jan 2016 #22

if she believes this DonCoquixote Jan 2016 #32

They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #88

It might be, but.. pangaia Jan 2016 #43

Even if it's what she really thinks, it's a political statement. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #51

she was a shitty secretary of state...she was a lousy do nothing senator , she makes decisions bowens43 Jan 2016 #82

She is a Republican Duckfan Jan 2016 #62

I am a bit startled that her internal saltpoint Jan 2016 #66

Isn't South Carolina an open primary state? Paka Jan 2016 #102

Like that's gonna happen Proserpina Jan 2016 #143

She's just clueless enough to think differently. Paka Jan 2016 #146

This is what some of her financial backers want nt Depaysement Jan 2016 #70

That's sounds plausible, yes, and it's also saltpoint Jan 2016 #74

Repukes will use this to bludgeon Obama. Worse, some of her sycophants cali Jan 2016 #5

Obama snubbed Hillary, by refusing to endorse her Proserpina Jan 2016 #56

Well if Obama wants to escalate to a full, unlimited nuclear war, there's one move he could make: DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #85

After this move by her, I don't know. His blood has to be boiling after this one. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #96

It's abnormal, or it's just her right wing war hawk side showing. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #99

I think you're right that there is some ... tex-wyo-dem Jan 2016 #127

It's way too early for lack of endorsement to be considered to be a snub n/t eridani Jan 2016 #142

Not when you're Hillary Proserpina Jan 2016 #144

I would complain about her being a war hawk, but I'm more glad she's shooting Fawke Em Jan 2016 #6

David Brock and co., hard core supporter directly aligned to her campaign delrem Jan 2016 #141

Can't wait to get the splain on this crap. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #7

She's too fucking unstable to be president. last1standing Jan 2016 #9

Hillary is carrying on Obama's legacy Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #10

remember last scene in Terminator II where dying terminator shows every personae zazen Jan 2016 #12

Hopefully, it's not a Tom Ridge "Code RED" call that will just benefit the Republicans! nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #14

I like this thread in its pristine state, before they determine the talking points to counter it. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #15

Stupid, a day before the debate. joshcryer Jan 2016 #16

Perhaps a political calculation? ram2008 Jan 2016 #19

No 'perhaps' about it, elleng Jan 2016 #28

I think it has to do with the general election myself. draa Jan 2016 #110

REALLY stupid elleng Jan 2016 #114

Haha, no. Maybe I wasn't clear so i'm sorry. draa Jan 2016 #126

Gotcha, and I was being somewhat sarcastic, elleng Jan 2016 #129

Ah, that's ok, my scarsam meter is down for maintanece. draa Jan 2016 #132

Thanks, draa. elleng Jan 2016 #136

"I could also be giving her too much credit and she could simply be bat-shit crazy." BeanMusical Jan 2016 #170

so is she going to call a family member of Holocaust victims "anti-Israel?" zazen Jan 2016 #17

Sure is. elleng Jan 2016 #29

She likes war, death, and confrontation. JRLeft Jan 2016 #18

Just like a reactionary. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #20

Wow. ljm2002 Jan 2016 #21

I guess she has decided she needs conservative votes Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #37

is she forgetting Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #24

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #25

R U F*ing Kidding Me ??? WillyT Jan 2016 #26

I'm thinking the same Willy Duckfan Jan 2016 #67

WOW! She is more Republican than I thought. secondwind Jan 2016 #27

this is VERY undercutting of Obama's push for a "legacy," a Camp David accord to retire with MisterP Jan 2016 #30

Emotionally unstable. libdem4life Jan 2016 #31

I wonder what Obama thought when he heard it? Duckfan Jan 2016 #71

Probably something similar to WTF? libdem4life Jan 2016 #103

Who is advising her? OMG - whoever it is she should get her moolah back! Peregrine Took Jan 2016 #33

Who's advising her? My guess would be the Saudis. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #36

would not surprise me. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #104

what is funny is DonCoquixote Jan 2016 #34

Yeah, but why kick at Obama? He's not her opponent. sarge43 Jan 2016 #45

She's going for Republican votes. Stupid, but there it is. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #89

Because of Obama awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #107

+1 BeanMusical Jan 2016 #172

Her poll numbers remind me how much I miss sledding down a hill. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #35

Yeah, And she must like going downhill REALLY fast Duckfan Jan 2016 #75

That is fucking funny davidpdx Jan 2016 #95

Jesus, this is bad, bad timing. Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #38

My best guess is that she's saltpoint Jan 2016 #50

I'm having trouble hollowdweller Jan 2016 #39

Her campaign manager EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #44

If she is elected we will be at war with Iran Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #40

Aside EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #42

Not quite catching the context Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #53

Iran has some 1,000,000 soldiers under arms and 80,000 KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #131

They'll greet us as liberators. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #148

. mmonk Jan 2016 #151

Lol, with rose petals galore. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #173

They may have better anti-aircraft guns too. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2016 #180

Who's surprised? EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #41

No he's not. cali Jan 2016 #49

Cali they don't let facts get in the way. FloridaBlues Jan 2016 #86

Not him EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #147

Well... Elizabeth Warren... If You Choose To Endorse Bernie... This Would Be The Time... WillyT Jan 2016 #46

This is low hanging fruit nilesobek Jan 2016 #47

WTF? SoapBox Jan 2016 #48

I swear, she wants more wars. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #54

Nothing has changed with Hillary's position on Iran kenn3d Jan 2016 #58

That laugh, the same one as when she said " we came, we saw, he died." A Simple Game Jan 2016 #181

Yes...just the same. kenn3d Jan 2016 #186

i personally don't believe this can be mitigated to make it other than what it is roguevalley Jan 2016 #61

Well said nt Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #130

I hope she is ok DirtyHippyBastard Jan 2016 #57

what's next, invade cuba juxtaposed Jan 2016 #59

You never know Kall Jan 2016 #106

North Korea. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #177

you never know, anything to sell a car. juxtaposed Jan 2016 #178

Secretary Clinton knows more about Iran than any of us philosslayer Jan 2016 #60

A good reporter might be moved to ask saltpoint Jan 2016 #64

Including the president? whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #65

I think I'll trust the judgement of Obama and the current SOS on this. Autumn Jan 2016 #68

I'll second that, Autumn. eom saltpoint Jan 2016 #69

Does a former SOS even have access to all the intelligence reports on Iran? bvar22 Jan 2016 #155

+1 Totally agree. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #175

now, if that is not a paternalistic view of authority - I don't know what is. Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #83

LOL, classic. nt Logical Jan 2016 #90

Do you think she knows more about it than Obama & Kerry? senz Jan 2016 #133

I laugh when I hear Republicans say this about their people. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #137

I don't trust her judgement and here's why passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #162

Probably not more than ALL of us. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #182

And I would have thought then Senator Clinton would have known more about Iraq and WMD's than I did. A Simple Game Jan 2016 #184

I knew it wasn't the Onion cause this shit isn't funny. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #63

Hillary agrees with Republicans on much more than just Foreign Policy: bvar22 Jan 2016 #157

Is she going for the Trump vote? left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #72

Couldn't a President Clinton just tell them to "cut it out"?... n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2016 #73

is she intentionally trying to set herself up to lose a general election? If you can't appeal to Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #77

Evidently no one was around at the saltpoint Jan 2016 #78

Yep. She is freaking out-bigtime! Duckfan Jan 2016 #79

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #80

Kick for exposure. This shit needs to be seen. eom Purveyor Jan 2016 #81

OFFS Recursion Jan 2016 #84

What the WHAT? AzDar Jan 2016 #87

Okay, her thirst for blood is getting really, really creepy! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #91

Hillary and her supporters Aerows Jan 2016 #92

This "Not the Onion" shtick isn't even funny anymore n/t CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #94

This is a bit of a shock davidpdx Jan 2016 #97

That she SAID this is not surprising, but what IS surprising is she's saying it in the Primary 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #98

I have no f'ing clue who is advising her, but they are destroying our only chance of the Presidency. Pisces Jan 2016 #101

Bernie WILL BE the President! He beats EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN in the polls by much wider margins in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #115

Most polls show Bernie's odds of winng GE Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #134

Independents are the ticket to the White House and they DO NOT like Hillary Clinton. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #138

The key to Sanders winning the GE is mobilizing the 63% eridani Jan 2016 #145

so, the day before a debate, restorefreedom Jan 2016 #105

Kinda looks like that's just saltpoint Jan 2016 #109

i have to seriously wonder if her team is trying to sandbag her. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #112

It is starting to look like an inside job. saltpoint Jan 2016 #113

I think she's listening to Bill again ram2008 Jan 2016 #117

It could be. I have no idea what's saltpoint Jan 2016 #119

would be nice to hear from kerry. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #118

Yes. The energy level in Iowa for saltpoint Jan 2016 #120

this article is brand new restorefreedom Jan 2016 #121

'Will give the article a good look. saltpoint Jan 2016 #123

:) yw restorefreedom Jan 2016 #124

restorefreedom, I did go have a look at saltpoint Jan 2016 #149

thanks for your thoughts restorefreedom Jan 2016 #150

I had seen this on another thread earlier Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #108

Being a fake progressive has taken a toll on her, sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #116

She is lucky that Obama is nicer than I am. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #122

If Iran Sanctions is a pre-debate stance what does it mean? sorechasm Jan 2016 #125

She's trying to recover her "electability" in the GE. senz Jan 2016 #128

I hope President Obama throws Hillary under the bus . . . on Monday. A fitting KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #135

Well, Chelsea's lead baloon of an attack on Sanders plans just got overshadowed Babel_17 Jan 2016 #139

She's going to immediately undo EVERYTHING that Obama did, with Kerry. delrem Jan 2016 #140

No she isn't passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #163

Did you read her article? delrem Jan 2016 #166

That was not my point. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #169

She's a neocon because of her support for the PNAC wars in the ME. delrem Jan 2016 #179

I never said she wasn't a neocon. Of course she is. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #185

"this is not why she is a neocon" That's exactly what I said!! jeeeeeez. delrem Jan 2016 #187

I think it's better if we don't talk to each other passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #188

You responded to MY posts. delrem Jan 2016 #189

I was pleased to see President Obama announce these sanctions this morning Gothmog Jan 2016 #152

NOT THE ONION: Iran: US imposes new sanctions over missile test Beacool Jan 2016 #153

Today this thread reads like The Onion. Alfresco Jan 2016 #154

It always did, but don't expect a retraction from any of them. Beacool Jan 2016 #156

Hillary leaked President Obama's policy decision to puff herself up before the debate. Green Forest Jan 2016 #158

Hillary didn't "leak" anything. These sanctions have been in the works for months. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #160

Still repeating that fallacious comment? Beacool Jan 2016 #164

Indeed. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #161

Seeking sanctions to thwart Iran's ballistic missile program is not "crazy" nor "war mongering." SunSeeker Jan 2016 #159

She must have made this decision humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #167

some people I end up in fights with PatrynXX Jan 2016 #168

Iran: US imposes new sanctions over missile test BlueStateLib Jan 2016 #171

Hillary wants to roll back all the Obama/Kerry successes. fbc Jan 2016 #176

Whoda thunk it? sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #183