2016 Postmortem

ProudToBeLiberal

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21. "They aren't the movement." Wow...you have gone too far scottie.

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:18 AM

Mar 2016

This is too much even from you. The mothers of the movement deserve your respect and sincerity. These are the mothers who have lost their childs.

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Sanders is wrong about the lawsuit we filed after our son’s murder in Newtown [View all] ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 OP

Bernie always supported a ban on assault weapons. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #1

This is not what he said during the Michigan debate. ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #5

Sure, that is exactly what you felt. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #9

Hillary talks a good game but Annie Oakley won't pursue gun control if she wins. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #12

I supported Hillary Clinton in 2008, so you don't have to lecture me on her past positions. ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #13

There was no epidemic of gun violence or mass shootings before 2008? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #15

The Black Lives Matter movement wasn't around in 2008. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #16

What does that have to do with anything? Did they endorse Hillary? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #17

The mothers of the movement have in fact endorsed Hillary Clinton. ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #18

They aren't the movement. Erica Garner endorsed Bernie: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #19

"They aren't the movement." Wow...you have gone too far scottie. ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #21

I didn't disrespect anyone, I stated a fact. You implied blm endorsed Hillary. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #22

Please say their names. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #25

I stand with all the parents who have lost children. Hortensis Mar 2016 #71

Oh spare me. Appeal to emotion fallacy: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #76

Pure partisanship. If it were HRC, your argument would reverse. Hortensis Mar 2016 #91

Of course because only Hillary supporters have "principles and respect for worthy people". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #92

And in response to your edit: horseshit! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #93

I don't believe these posts are about policy. Hortensis Mar 2016 #94

How would you know? Your "belief" couldn't possibly be based on anything I actually posted. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #95

I'm talking about people objecting to criticism Hortensis Mar 2016 #97

I stand with democracy. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #90

What does BLM have to do with Gwhittey Mar 2016 #44

Gun violence has always been an issue -- Cluinton's "change" is just marketing Armstead Mar 2016 #50

I am aways impressed with how you try to try to educate the willfully Fairgo Mar 2016 #23

Thank you! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #24

Thanks. I knew her position was situational, but that's incredible. kristopher Mar 2016 #26

Pushing too hard on gun control in the ge has always been a bad idea. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #27

Wow! Excellent post. Very Well said! monicaangela Mar 2016 #55

Gish gallop... XRubicon Mar 2016 #98

He's on the wrong side of this issue. Period. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #2

When you have the NRA tweeting favorably on your gun position then something is very wrong. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #3

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2016 #30

Sanders is on the same side of the issue as Clinton -- Period Armstead Mar 2016 #51

There is a lot of rhetoric there, but legally the question is... JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #4

I stand with the Sandy Hook families. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #6

You have no response to what I said but commented anyway? Interesting, there is a word for that. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #7

I am a bit rusty from my forced hiatus. Please give me a chance to get my mojo back. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #8

Okay David. Proceed. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #10

Thank you. You're a good dude. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #14

Yes, when manufacturers advertise gunz as key to manhood, as best sniper rifle, etc. Tobacco Hoyt Mar 2016 #47

That can be applied to just about any industry Armstead Mar 2016 #52

Exactly, and they can be sued. Why special protection for gunz? My guess, lots of gun Hoyt Mar 2016 #53

Gun fanciers yes...Not gun manufacturers Armstead Mar 2016 #56

Check out the States next door. No other candidate has the guts to speak out against Hoyt Mar 2016 #64

I'm not sure what the states next door have to do with it... Armstead Mar 2016 #65

I said region. I am sure plenty of Vermontians work in gunz, gun shops, making targets that resemble Hoyt Mar 2016 #66

Take them on? She supported those "old white racists'" regional rights: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #68

I could live with what she said. Unfortunately, almost any racist can carry a gun in this country. Hoyt Mar 2016 #69

Sure you can because she's your candidate yet you condemn Bernie. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #70

Most of the gunners here -- who usually hide in the Gungeon -- appear to be Sanders's supporters. Hoyt Mar 2016 #72

No she's not, and your claims about other posters just show your bias. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #73

What is Clinton going to do TeddyR Mar 2016 #77

Belittle and ridicule hose who need a gun in their pants to walk out the door, is a good start. Hoyt Mar 2016 #84

In 2003, Rep. Sanders voted to protect "lawful commerce in arms": ucrdem Mar 2016 #20

Federal bills banning AR15s have failed for the last 14 years aikoaiko Mar 2016 #28

Making and selling a dangerous weapon and continually making it less safe is a great reason to get uponit7771 Mar 2016 #31

How is the AR dangerous and how is it made more dangerous? aikoaiko Mar 2016 #32

I'm talking about assault weapons overall, they can be made safer but there's no mandate uponit7771 Mar 2016 #34

That can be achieved legislatively if there were enough support. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #36

In part because of the shit pile of immunity legislation Sanders supported !! If anything it made it uponit7771 Mar 2016 #37

Let's be clear that no one who wants to sue wants to make ARs safer. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #38

Wrong on its face, of course rational people want to make something that's dangerous safer... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #39

PLAACA doesnt prevent or make legislation harder. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #40

"These Sandy Hook parents and the antigun organizations who are paying them...." thucythucy Mar 2016 #54

No, that's not what I'm saying. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #59

Yeah, well, that's a pretty big mistake to make thucythucy Mar 2016 #85

How would one "make those guns safer?" Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #89

How do you make them safer? Nt hack89 Mar 2016 #61

Allowing only owner to use them after extensive background check uponit7771 Mar 2016 #74

If you purchase an AR-15 TeddyR Mar 2016 #78

Nothing wrong with strong background checks. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #80

Dangerous because ARs attract sick people. That's why they are made to look Hoyt Mar 2016 #48

You really shouldn't slur people like Gabby Giffords this way. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #60

And look where her gun love got her. Hoyt Mar 2016 #63

Are you really attacking Gabby Giffords? TeddyR Mar 2016 #79

She was a gun promoter before getting shot. Hoyt Mar 2016 #83

She's still a gun promoter TeddyR Mar 2016 #86

I disagree with your position on gunz. I think gun love is sad. Hoyt Mar 2016 #88

But but but Sanders is a true blue progressive dammit!!! uponit7771 Mar 2016 #29

Bluer than the Wall Street candidate. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #33

Overall I'd say slightly better but not so much better that he can chunk rocks like he's done. Wall uponit7771 Mar 2016 #35

Wall Street never killed anyone. Guns kill 33,000 a year. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #41

Guns, being inanimate objects without agency, have never killed anyone. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #42

We don't know mythology Mar 2016 #43

Your example shows that PLAACA is not an impediment to righteous suits. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #46

Oh My God..... Armstead Mar 2016 #58

Two thirds of which are suicides. hack89 Mar 2016 #62

This post is main difference of the progressive vs pretend ones Gwhittey Mar 2016 #45

Nothing "progressive" about gunz. Hoyt Mar 2016 #49

No kidding Sherlock. And did you know the Sky was blue? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #81

Gunz are nothing like Roe v Wade, Watson. Hoyt Mar 2016 #82

How do they differ? TeddyR Mar 2016 #87

No. Pretend ones don't realize that laws that protect corporations aren't progressive. kcr Mar 2016 #67

K&R mcar Mar 2016 #57

I do believe he is wrong on this issue alarimer Mar 2016 #75

So, the lawsuit isn't about holding Rem accountable for one of their weapons being used... Lancero Mar 2016 #96