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In reply to the discussion: We are the base of the party. The POC, the LGBT, the feminists. [View all]Haveadream
(1,630 posts)207. Who are the many people who "know Sanders is better" for PoC & LGBT?
PoC and LGBT are voting for Hillary.
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We are the base of the party. The POC, the LGBT, the feminists. [View all]
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
OP
there is this huge thread that is clearly in GDP. if you took a second you would find it
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#33
we are divided in groups, in how we vote and more importantly how we experience life. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#109
Particularly not if they are fortunate enough to be in a a group protected by privilege
Haveadream
Apr 2016
#291
The basis for that thinking (you responded to) is really supremacist at its root ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#159
HILLARYOUS... You Ardently Support Someone Whom You Have ZERO Clue About!
CorporatistNation
Apr 2016
#272
Here is what Martin Luther King Jr had to say about capitalism. The system that Clinton
rhett o rick
Apr 2016
#176
LOL. Many people know Sanders is a better choice for POC, especially, and LGBT, as well.
CentralCoaster
Apr 2016
#17
But those arguing economic equality are not primarily concerned with discrimination ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#173
I see that you don't have a clue about progressives. From your point of view we can't be altruistic.
rhett o rick
Apr 2016
#189
It's illustrative of our problem to admit that POC exist and are overrepresented in prison?
DemocracyDirect
Apr 2016
#60
Well my candidate was marching on Washington during the civil rights movement...
DemocracyDirect
Apr 2016
#87
How quickly they forget those who put life and limb on the line for them.
DemocracyDirect
Apr 2016
#269
BLM's Campaign Zero shows that Bernie has the best criminal justice platform
obamneycare
Apr 2016
#122
Check again. 40% > 39%. And, "POC" includes more than African Americans. Most inmates are POC.
CentralCoaster
Apr 2016
#227
There is no "respect" in a post that starts with "thoughtful people know" ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#96
I'll defer, remove the word, but I wonder if you hold the OP to any similary scrutiny.
CentralCoaster
Apr 2016
#170
Michelle Alexander has a different look at the "harsh" truth of the Clinton's relationsip with
rhett o rick
Apr 2016
#178
superdelegates have zero influence on the pledged delegate count. red herring nt
geek tragedy
Apr 2016
#101
excuses excuses excuses. Sanders failed to broaden his appeal sufficiently
geek tragedy
Apr 2016
#111
Sanders isn't in the pocket of Big Money. But wealth is more important to some than
rhett o rick
Apr 2016
#32
Clinton doesn't need to spend money, she has the corporate media providing unending free advertising
Skwmom
Apr 2016
#49
It's all they have. Sanders has proven that he, not she, is the champion of the oppressed.
CentralCoaster
Apr 2016
#48
This picture is a reason to be extremely proud of Bernie, not a reason to attack Hillary.
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#136
Tell that to the numerous Ferguson activists I know who are strong Sanders supporters.
Svafa
Apr 2016
#74
please re-read that. no point have i said that all sanders voters are racist or sexist. or even
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#239
again, i didn't say anything about sanders disenfranchising those groups.
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#248
In that case, celebrate. You've vanquished us, and most of us will be on our way now.
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2016
#12
no, most Sanders supporters will not become deserters out of a temper tantrum
geek tragedy
Apr 2016
#20
That is in NY, where voters may be more sophisticated, more tuned in that in some other places.
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#141
that she is overwhelmingly supported by POC? really, you think I made that up?
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#39
no, i have plenty of sources, i am just SHOCKED that someone does not know these facts
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#95
Lol. every single polling has found clinton to lead among blacks and women.
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#102
i'm not wasting my time because you reject souces like 538, who just report on what the numbers show
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#140
i posted 4 links from 4 different sources, and apparatnly none of them were good enough
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#149
It is remarkable and you do know what a sign is of someone who has an agenda, right!
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#152
i like bernie, if he won I would vote for him. however, i really am against
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#156
Any person that demands "links" to prove that Clinton is wiping the floor with Sanders among poc
Number23
Apr 2016
#292
it has the word large amount of or something to that effect. and never does it say every single one.
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#85
You should know by now this is a mistake that can really cost you around here.
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#148
i think people are deliberately trying to not see what i am talking about
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#175
Deriding the base has been going on for a while now, not by Bernie himself, but you know.
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#193
i didn't feel the derision of the base from him, but def a tone deafness around it
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#194
Congrats you played the sexist, the LGBT, and the racist cards all at the same time.
rhett o rick
Apr 2016
#45
If you're the "base of the party," why has the party drifted so far right?
Lizzie Poppet
Apr 2016
#50
in what way has the party drifted right? Obama is a center left president
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#55
The party has drifted hard right on the patriotism of torture. On the sanctity of the Bill of Rights
TheKentuckian
Apr 2016
#253
LOL. Pictures speak 1,000 words. What Hillary has never done and will never do, here:
CentralCoaster
Apr 2016
#52
no pictuires just capture one moment in time. I like Sanders, but i like HRC more
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#58
You are the base and you must keep fighting the white male power structure
workinclasszero
Apr 2016
#53
belittling the importance of racism and sexism, in the lives of those it affects
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#62
If I a dollar every time a right winger said that to me, I would be rich.
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#155
And all the while we have these discussions Ted Cruz or Paul Ryan or John Kasich
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#160
he's not. he is just not the preferred candidate of the large majority of the groups i named
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#83
Your post shows a huge lack of knowledge of Hillary's policies and experience. n/t
Lucinda
Apr 2016
#300
no, it really doesn't. unless you desperately want to misconstrue what i wrote. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#188
do you have any numbers to support your premise? does Hillary not get any white male votes?
islandmkl
Apr 2016
#91
I'm a gay Sanders supporter and I don't need you to bully me nor speak for me.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#92
i dont bully you because I tell you the truth that majority support hers
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#99
That's not what your OP says. As several people have pointed out to you, you are attempting to
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#113
And if the large parts of the entire base is voting for one candidate...
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#138
again, im having a very hard time understanding why people confuse the words large amount of
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#104
Contrary to the lies of you Hillary supporters, Bernie supporters consist of all those groups also.
m-lekktor
Apr 2016
#105
yes, a smaller number of all three groups. majority/large amounts of does not mean every single
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#112
Ah, now it's name calling as a side car to the exploitative broad brush bullying.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#121
lol. you call me a bully and then get all offended for name calling.
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#151
you realize that this reeks of condescencion, right? like we need better and more informed people
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#137
OFFS! Do you think your OP isn't a teensy bit dismissive, exclusive, condescending?
CentralCoaster
Apr 2016
#143
the idea itself that "outsiders" know better is a condescending, patriarchal idea.
bettyellen
Apr 2016
#171
THIS ^^^ is exactly what we were saying since people argued it was no big thing that SBS made no
bettyellen
Apr 2016
#168
how does she exploit it? and how are we so stupid that we who are most affected by this
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#167
Black Lives Matter and Michelle Alexander have a different look at the truth.
rhett o rick
Apr 2016
#181
Ah the post racial / post sexist society nonsense. A losing strategy, because it is rooted in
bettyellen
Apr 2016
#169
it's rooted in a sense of entitlement. my race doesn't affect my life, so clearly yours doesn't
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#177
So people weren't labeled and divided before this post or HRC's primary run?! REALLY?!
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#216
are you saying you don't need the white, straight vote? are you saying I am not a feminist?
Hiraeth
Apr 2016
#174
i literally do not understand what you wrote, hence i cannot respond to it.
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#186
my post is not racist, because it addresses race. that is really a right wing way of looking
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#195
lol. the fact that you don't understand racism is not merely mentioning race is really not my fault
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#200
Okay. But people interested in the topic look to the social scientists ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#242
no one derides the vote of labor, the way they deride the Black vote and the female vote
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#225
Did you miss the Bill Clinton years,, when labor was thrown fully under the bus? nt
silvershadow
Apr 2016
#226
let me ask you a simple question, have you seen anywhere on DU posts
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#231
The Clinton agenda destroyed labor and the economy in this country. Ross Perot was right.
silvershadow
Apr 2016
#233
you're really not addressing either my OP or my questions to you. my point is no one questions
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#238
Triangulation in action. It is hollow. Don't take my word for it, though. Check back
silvershadow
Apr 2016
#230
No you haven't. You can't. You haven't interviewed the rank and file union members. All of them.nt
silvershadow
Apr 2016
#246
she was also the senator from a very blue state. yes, lets take the party back by losing an election
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#251
Is she still under investigation? Does she have a real possibility of indictment by Justice?
silvershadow
Apr 2016
#256
How could anyone know WHERE trump falls on the political spectrum? ...
1StrongBlackMan
Apr 2016
#262
yeah. i listen to the weeds podcast and they scored it as more rightwing than anyone else's
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#267
She has endorsements. She doesn't have rank and file support, and everyone knows it. nt
silvershadow
Apr 2016
#234
From my sources "around here". You must be hanging with a different labor group. nt
silvershadow
Apr 2016
#237
"Feminists" supporting a woman who demonizes abortion and the women who have them
loyalsister
Apr 2016
#270
dismissing systemic racism and sexism about so called progressives
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#281
Intersectionality means that PoC, LGBT and women live with all the life challenges you describe
Haveadream
Apr 2016
#294
this is oddly something that people who talk about how bad poor white people have it
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#301
As usual, the folks who need to know won't hear. And the folks that are listening already know.
Number23
Apr 2016
#293
I completely agree, POC and LGBT are in fact the base of the Democratic party.
Matt_in_STL
Apr 2016
#302
LOL. i never said any of the things that you are accusing me of saying
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#303