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2016 Postmortem

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:47 PM Nov 2016

Possibly the most important thing: Dems need to get better at the propaganda wars. [View all]

One frustration I have with the Dems is that they seem to never understand what the GOP knows well. That politics is about propaganda. Most voters are not well informed. Most voters, indeed most people, make decisions based on emotion more than logic. The Democratic and Republican parties are brands, and they need to constantly be cared for and marketed as such. And when people hear things repeated over and over, they tend to believe them.

Here's where someone says "we need to get rid of the DLC Third Way neoliberal corporatists who sold out the working class." That's nonsense. Not only is this a false charge -- Obama has been extremely progressive on policy -- but it misses the point. Politics is about perceptions, not tariff rates. If this were about actual policies, then the Rust Belt wouldn't have voted against the party solely responsible for the continued existence of the US auto industry. You wouldn't have people on Medicare and SS talking about how much they hate government programs.

And as much as I love the guy, Obama gets a big chunk of blame here. Witness the steady loss of downballot races during his presidency. It's a bit of a paradox, because as an top-of-the-ticket politician, I think he's a genius. His speaking ability is basically unparalleled, he inspires people, and he has that ability to convince people he cares about their problems. Obviously, part of the problem is that Hillary doesn't have the same chops -- I think if Obama had run for a third term, he would have won handily.

But Obama's team wasn't very good at all at the larger political game. And we can't be a party that relies on political geniuses like Obama in order to win elections. Dems and surrogates need to be constantly make the case all over the media that the GOP is the party of racism and trickle down economics, the Dems are the party of working people and social justice.

And this point needs to be made in non-subtle, repetitive ways. Alan Grayson (who I am not generally a fan of) memorably said in congress that the GOP's healthcare plan is "don't get sick, and if you do, die quickly." That's the kind of stuff we need.

Because here's what happens. You say that once, and pundits will say "oh, no, that's out of line." But you say it a hundred times, different people say it, and suddenly by sheer force of repetition, it becomes part of the dialog. This is how birtherism, "death panels", and all the rest of the GOP lies get spread. And it just so happens that Grayson is right: the GOP actually wants to kick people out of their insurance, which is in effect a "don't get sick or die quickly" approach to healthcare.

I don't have all the answers, but I do feel strongly that what Dems need to get better at is not fine-tuning their policies. The product we offer is already many times better for all but the wealthiest Americans than what the GOP has. What we need to get better at is marketing.

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Democrats need to find a handful of issues and pound on it! hrmjustin Nov 2016 #1
We are 10 years behind on this... FarPoint Nov 2016 #2
Yes. It's the media. hadEnuf Nov 2016 #30
Best Comment of All McKim Nov 2016 #32
I agree-- and welcome to DU! Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #42
That's what make America so vulnerable to a third-rate annabanana Nov 2016 #3
It's not just America. It's a general human problem. DanTex Nov 2016 #5
This is the absolute truth! It is the Propaganda Campaign that has had control over us since The Wielding Truth Nov 2016 #4
Republicans own the media (tv and radio) SHRED Nov 2016 #6
Definition of propaganda frazzled Nov 2016 #7
That's pretty much what I'm saying, yes. DanTex Nov 2016 #12
YES, that definition, minus the "biased and misleading nature" part. yodermon Nov 2016 #18
So, yell the truth louder frazzled Nov 2016 #21
Yeah,"... gone down in flames." Rather like the Democratic Party did. Ligyron Nov 2016 #34
Please note that the definition says "especially," not "exclusively," Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2016 #37
And we do a very good job of the positive type of purposeful persuasion frazzled Nov 2016 #43
Not sure why you're talking of "gnashing teeth with fiery bromides and exaggerated promises" Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2016 #53
They've ignored Professor Lakoff's advice for years. elleng Nov 2016 #8
Yup. And I'm starting to think that Obama's political genius in a way had the unfortunate DanTex Nov 2016 #13
Yes, something like that. elleng Nov 2016 #17
Facts and figures... JSup Nov 2016 #9
Absolutely, although that isn't a popular opinion on here. Most think "being right" is enough... MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #10
Yes, politics is about perception not reality. radius777 Nov 2016 #11
Bill also had a real talent for simplifying difficult concepts Nevernose Nov 2016 #49
Yes. Being reasonable, knowledgeable and competent treestar Nov 2016 #14
I agree, we need to get better at "the game"... Raster Nov 2016 #15
Thought provoking RonniePudding Nov 2016 #16
I have a very high opinion of Obama as well. And I agree about the white patriarchy. DanTex Nov 2016 #19
The thing is, Obama actually got quite a bit done RonniePudding Nov 2016 #24
Yes, he did. His first two years were amazing. And even after, in the face of DanTex Nov 2016 #25
You say that once, and pundits will say "oh, no, that's out of line." yodermon Nov 2016 #20
Well, the biggest thing we need is a media platform. kydo Nov 2016 #22
100% correct. nt Maven Nov 2016 #23
I agree. Rational arguments do not win elections. They don't sell products. KittyWampus Nov 2016 #26
Yup. Rationality plays an alarmingly tiny role in human behavior. DanTex Nov 2016 #29
Add microtargeting to this. sfwriter Nov 2016 #27
Republican propaganda is all lies and smears Cary Nov 2016 #28
We need to jam their signal spirald Nov 2016 #31
We have to stand on principles instead of triangulation compromises bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #33
Won't work. DEMS CANNOT BE TOLD. Reps can. ffr Nov 2016 #35
I agree we need drastic improvemnt in framing, focused messaging and MEMES. Not propaganda. n/t Turn CO Blue Nov 2016 #36
For it to work you have to have leaders and spokespeople that the Exilednight Nov 2016 #38
Actually the David Brock Correct The Record propaganda turned many off jfern Nov 2016 #39
Actual voters don't care about David Brock. DanTex Nov 2016 #40
Enjoy losing then jfern Nov 2016 #41
There were no drunken hooligams throwing chairs Nevernose Nov 2016 #50
No one knows about David Brock, but his work on Anita Hill still resonates LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #48
Establishment isn't about how long you've been in DC. Hillary was obviously more establishment. jfern Nov 2016 #51
I just think most people are self-centered. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #44
I guess yelling louder does work frazzled Nov 2016 #45
Some things we're probably not willing to do... JSup Nov 2016 #46
Yep. Some will call 'em Trump Chumps, some will call them "alt right" some say neo-fascist LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #47
Absolutely this. alarimer Nov 2016 #52
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