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2016 Postmortem

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lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:48 AM Nov 2016

I keep reading that democratic party policies are popular. [View all]

Then why do we keep losing elections? Yes, I know Hillary won the popular vote big time. That's fabulous and something we can build upon. But I don't just mean presidential. I mean congressional, local and state elections in particular.

Personally, I think many liberals come off as self-righteous know-it-alls who talk down to others. No one likes that. It's not persuasive in the least. I think it's time we all do some more soul-searching as to how we come off to people who aren't voting or to people who may even agree with us on policy but vote the other way just to try and get us to shut up for a while.

I'm interested in your opinions. But not in single issue responses like 'the media' or 'money' or 'corporations' because I think it's way deeper than any one issue answer. I think we often come across as smug assholes, lol.

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The Democratic platform was popular, but people weren't voting on some meaningless platform jfern Nov 2016 #1
Yeah, that may be as good an answer as I've heard. lovemydog Nov 2016 #2
Right, because they voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN? Cosmocat Nov 2016 #6
No one gives a shit about meaningless platforms they know the candidate will ignore jfern Nov 2016 #26
You aren't going to get good answers Txbluedog Nov 2016 #3
I think you're largely correct. lovemydog Nov 2016 #16
We keep losing elections because the right wing media machine... Initech Nov 2016 #4
C A N W E P L E A S E S T O P W I T H T H E A G G R I E V E D R U R A L F O L K S S H I T Cosmocat Nov 2016 #5
There is a lot of truth to this post hueymahl Nov 2016 #7
They hated the shit of Bill and only to a slightly lesser extent Obama, too Cosmocat Nov 2016 #13
Great post hueymahl Nov 2016 #22
I agree Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #9
IDK Cosmocat Nov 2016 #11
Amen. (nt) Paladin Nov 2016 #17
Two things: Russia and Racism. Nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #8
If we had a PARLIAMENTARY system, issues would be at the forefront! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #10
Lazy and too much attention to the presidency treestar Nov 2016 #12
Yes, locally on up. lovemydog Nov 2016 #18
Gerrymandering and messaging budkin Nov 2016 #14
This mythology Nov 2016 #20
Gerrymandering is a problem because we gerrymandered ourselves Amishman Nov 2016 #21
Agreed. NT hueymahl Nov 2016 #23
I feel like "self righteous" comes out when people can't defend their positions- often bigotry. bettyellen Nov 2016 #15
Very good point. lovemydog Nov 2016 #19
Reaserching policy takes effort on everyone's part. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #24
Definitely. Democracy is messy and it requires lovemydog Nov 2016 #27
Okay, this is a very oversimplified interpretation. There is actually a very JCanete Nov 2016 #25
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