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24. Fast Track is a neo-liberal DREAM. Neo-liberal policies on steroids will be implemented

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:30 AM

Jul 2015

thanks to it.

Anyone that's been paying attention to politics would know this. And, I don't believe you'll be surprised (or upset) when neo-liberal policy gets enacted thanks to its passage.

Fast Track rolls out the red carpet for neo-liberal policy to be enacted. Rolls it out.

It's why so many of us were against it.

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Question for Bernie Supporters ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 OP

Why don't we leave it for each individual to decide.... daleanime Jul 2015 #1

I don't care who anyone supports. I just want to understand, why you will fail ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #3

That's strange.... daleanime Jul 2015 #6

Supposing you had a candidate, which we did btw, in 1988, who was African American sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #34

I was just about to post about Jesse Jackson TM99 Jul 2015 #40

I don't see dedication in this artislife Jul 2015 #94

+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #104

+ million HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #152

+ 1 Billion appalachiablue Jul 2015 #182

Hilary? OnlyBernieBurnsBush Jul 2015 #184

What I would truly want to know artislife Jul 2015 #55

For the 999th time ... I AM NOT SETTLED ON A CANDIDATE! 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #67

Sorry, joined last week. artislife Jul 2015 #75

What's there to dialogue about, when ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #97

Not playing artislife Jul 2015 #98

Thanks. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #99

+1 madokie Jul 2015 #165

Say it all you want, anyone who reads Your posts can tell . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #106

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #142

In regards to your tagline...If you aren't saying "Bernie doesn't care" Ken Burch Jul 2015 #179

Very well stated, the crux of the matter. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #183

That moment was a pretty big turning point for me as well virtualobserver Jul 2015 #127

That's strange, I live in a poor black neighborhood and have been asked several times Dragonfli Jul 2015 #162

Of course you care. 840high Jul 2015 #175

Would I be incorrect or disagreeable if I stated ... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #2

No. Not at all ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #5

I prefer to make the affirmative case... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #10

Agreed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #18

I do not understand what you are getting at AverageGuy Jul 2015 #35

All of which Sanders is doing. Or maybe you are not familiar with his position on those issues? sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #45

If you don't fight for both social AND economic justice then when/if parity ever does stillwaiting Jul 2015 #4

Well DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #7

I don't think there's a single person on this website that doesn't want that to be our reality. stillwaiting Jul 2015 #17

I don't want to mislead anybody. I am a generic white guy, albeit a poor generic white guy. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #19

Oh? What candidate do I support? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #9

I have read MANY of your posts. You support neo-liberal policies for the most part. stillwaiting Jul 2015 #11

What does neo-liberal mean to you? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #15

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #25

Sweden is held out as a socialist nation DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #28

Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #31

You started this discusion, why are you ignoring direct responses to the actual issues raised.. 2banon Jul 2015 #122

I agree with you madokie Jul 2015 #173

a classic example of the privileged class wallowing in deep denial and.. 2banon Jul 2015 #193

Hugo Chavez didn't nationalize a single bank... OnlyBernieBurnsBush Jul 2015 #185

Neoliberalism is a right wing economic policy AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #69

The meaning of it has changed... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #76

It means economic liberalism AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #81

Economic liberalism like supporting regulated markets and a robust social welfare system? /nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #83

Economic liberalism means to liberate, not regulate, Capitalism AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #87

I don't believe FDR, JFK, and LBJ ever called themselves Democratic Socialists. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #89

Yet that's essentially what they were AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #92

Well DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #93

You are hung up on the Soviet model of centralized socialism AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #96

Where is this practiced? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #103

It is practiced in Nordic countries AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #119

No. Chan790 Jul 2015 #189

Laissez-faire capitalism or classical liberal economic policies failed. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #191

Fast Track isn't a "neo-liberal policy" ... it is a procedural policy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #22

Fast Track is a neo-liberal DREAM. Neo-liberal policies on steroids will be implemented stillwaiting Jul 2015 #24

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #26

Neoliberal economic policies are eroding civil rights AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #79

I think it is a useful point, 1SBM. malthaussen Jul 2015 #20

These terms get thrown around DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #41

I was referring to economic determinism. malthaussen Jul 2015 #43

The rich are always going to be with us. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #52

And "generous welfare state" is a lightening rod for conservatives- independents as well as bettyellen Jul 2015 #74

Here's the thing - if that is what you believe about Bernie - that he does not care about PoC - djean111 Jul 2015 #8

See, this is what is so frustrating about attempting to discuss this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #13

I am not shocked and angered. At all. You seem to want to keep asking this djean111 Jul 2015 #16

Seems simple enough to me. malthaussen Jul 2015 #49

Fair point ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #51

The meme from the BOG/HRC/conservative camp is that because Sanders wants everyone Doctor_J Jul 2015 #68

Oh, I am not even gonna try reasoning with anyone. You are right. djean111 Jul 2015 #70

How many times do you get to ignore ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #105

Here we go again with the false dichotomies. delrem Jul 2015 #12

To this point, 4 Bernie supporters have posted and none have responded on what I wrote ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #14

Maybe YOU should think about why we see the OP as an attack. stillwaiting Jul 2015 #21

You should listen to 1sbm. bravenak Jul 2015 #166

Hi! SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #125

Hey you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #138

I do see your screen name SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #161

Honestly, I would welcome that approach. donf Jul 2015 #23

A Question. Are you saying your problem is not with what Bernie says but Autumn Jul 2015 #27

No ... I love everything Bernie says; it's what he barely mentions that is HIS problem ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #29

So he needs to talk about it longer? I get that, it upsets and frustrates me Autumn Jul 2015 #30

And not only longer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #33

I like Hillary, she's a nice person and she has done a lot of good things in her career. Autumn Jul 2015 #39

I just want to add. The issues that you feel Bernie hasn't talked about long enough Autumn Jul 2015 #50

There you go again, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #66

Does his history not count? Are we to ignore that? How can you get upset because Autumn Jul 2015 #78

I'm not offended ... just frustrated that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #102

Then you aren't interested in a discussion at all you just want everyone to agree with you. Autumn Jul 2015 #112

He's actually looking for a discussion of the ideas he has expressed- not what you think you heard. bettyellen Jul 2015 #128

I guess I should brush up on my ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #157

the candidate you describe sounds great to me. ibegurpard Jul 2015 #32

True. There is, has never been, and I strong suspect, will never be that candidate ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #36

I can't imagine why you think this candidate would alienate anyone here. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #37

Many POC disagree with you. The People of Color for Bernie FaceBook page has almost 900 supporters peacebird Jul 2015 #38

I realize that I am not The Arbiter for Opinion of all people of color ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #46

The 50 year record would matter. virtualobserver Jul 2015 #42

I'm a "POC" Report1212 Jul 2015 #44

This Bernie Sanders supporter welcomes your question. femmedem Jul 2015 #47

No, I don't think Bernie being Jewish will hurt him with ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #120

NAFTA and TPP are racist attacks on black communities. Closing 50 schools in Chicago is racist. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #48

And a question for you... jeff47 Jul 2015 #53

This^ artislife Jul 2015 #57

I care, in the present day ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #151

So...track records don't count? Except when they do count? jeff47 Jul 2015 #156

honestly i do not understand restorefreedom Jul 2015 #54

Think of it this way: malthaussen Jul 2015 #56

"economic justice," empowers the poor, anyone should realize that. Autumn Jul 2015 #59

Supposing that to be the case... malthaussen Jul 2015 #60

I'm no expert on those thing but I think there may be a bit of difference in Autumn Jul 2015 #73

The question is whether what you and Bernie see as "economic justice" is what others see malthaussen Jul 2015 #88

The prosperity of the wealthy class has done nothing for the Autumn Jul 2015 #100

Possilby they should. malthaussen Jul 2015 #101

That's why people shouldn't tell people they are stupid . Autumn Jul 2015 #113

agreed. and bernie is the only one restorefreedom Jul 2015 #85

Thanks for putting it this way. rbnyc Jul 2015 #61

+1 azmom Jul 2015 #86

i absolutely am NOT advocating any form of trickle down restorefreedom Jul 2015 #77

The issue is of perception malthaussen Jul 2015 #91

if you are saying that bernie needs to work on presentation restorefreedom Jul 2015 #121

So it really isn't that hard to understand? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #135

Not hard to understand, and something every candidate should address. n/t femmedem Jul 2015 #186

Great post! Stardust Jul 2015 #63

t-y restorefreedom Jul 2015 #71

Really ... with all due respect ... Trajan Jul 2015 #58

How does this post not constitute a personal attack? malthaussen Jul 2015 #62

Alert on it .... Trajan Jul 2015 #64

Eh, alert would be overkill malthaussen Jul 2015 #82

The ignore feature still works. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #72

Can't be blocked here HUH ? orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #107

??? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #109

Your not asking question, your setting hurdles .?????????? orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #110

Setting hurdoes for whom. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #111

That is the POINT of GD. Open discussion. bravenak Jul 2015 #134

If asking is inconvient, better I'm blocked, many are leaving. NOT HERE THOUGH, huh . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #136

Ummm hmmm. bravenak Jul 2015 #137

Wouldn't bother me at all Scootaloo Jul 2015 #65

I would love a candidate like that, actually. historylovr Jul 2015 #80

+ 1000 Well Put !!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #108

This is just incidental. rbnyc Jul 2015 #84

socio-economic equality and justice 101 - It's DIRECTLY CONNECTED! 2banon Jul 2015 #90

They go hand in hand and cannot be separated. morningfog Jul 2015 #115

Bernie shockey80 Jul 2015 #95

All of the many different issues count sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #114

anything I have to say goes without saying olddots Jul 2015 #116

My answer, but first Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #117

+1000 !!!! That's being part of the process !!! orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #118

Are you beginning to understand why you are failing Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #123

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #145

Our president should be president of everyone. madfloridian Jul 2015 #124

So only policies that help everyone are important? bettyellen Jul 2015 #129

Do you really find that laughable? madfloridian Jul 2015 #130

Yes- because it perpetuates inequality that's existed for hundreds of years- bettyellen Jul 2015 #141

So that's how it is? madfloridian Jul 2015 #143

It's not personal- but when people basically say there's no need to specifically address issues bettyellen Jul 2015 #144

Yes, Lawd ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #147

It's strange it needs to be said here. Really strange. bettyellen Jul 2015 #149

Really, it's not strange at all ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #154

"if it is good for me, it must be good for everyone!" SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #176

I completely agree! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #146

Without Income Equality - There Wil Be No - Social Equality cantbeserious Jul 2015 #126

Declared, loudly and furiously, those ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #131

Income Inequality Is The Primary Method For Enforcing Social Inequality cantbeserious Jul 2015 #133

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #139

Again - Income Inequality Is The Primary Method For Enforcing Social Inequality cantbeserious Jul 2015 #140

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #148

What was that? bettyellen Jul 2015 #150

A "BettyEllen!" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #158

I don't agree completely. bravenak Jul 2015 #153

One Can't Fix Hearts And Minds - One Can Fix Income Inequality cantbeserious Jul 2015 #155

We can fix your income inequality. We get left out and stuck in prison. bravenak Jul 2015 #159

Totally Lost By That Post cantbeserious Jul 2015 #163

Reading is fundamental. bravenak Jul 2015 #167

Totally Lost By That Post cantbeserious Jul 2015 #168

I can tell. Requires thinking outside of youself to understand. Critical thinking and what not. bravenak Jul 2015 #169

Totally Lost By That Post cantbeserious Jul 2015 #171

I feel terribly bad for you. It's actually quite depressing to me. bravenak Jul 2015 #172

Are you a spambot malfunctioning- or just deliberately bettyellen Jul 2015 #187

Capitalism goes hand and hand with racism. AOR Jul 2015 #177

What are the social justice issues you most want to hear a candidate address? femmedem Jul 2015 #164

You hit the nail on the head. bravenak Jul 2015 #132

I understand. LWolf Jul 2015 #160

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #170

No. LWolf Jul 2015 #174

Nobody else does either. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #180

We all JOIN YOU in calling for an all-out fight against racism. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #178

I've read your post 4 times now TheFarseer Jul 2015 #181

I believe he is trying to communicate a number of concerns, not to exclude economic Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #188

thanks for the well thought out and fact based reply TheFarseer Jul 2015 #190

You're welcome. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #192