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106. They deal with it by adopting her hawkish views and falling in love with Wall Street.

Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:34 PM

Oct 2015

Remember, they took up residence in Camp Weathervane.

It's a mistake to assume they care about anything but forcing the American people to live with Hillary as president.

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How do Hillary supporters deal with her hawkish views and her obvious ties to Wall Street??? [View all] reformist2 Oct 2015 OP

Personally I doubt she will take us into another ground war and while I don't agree with her on hrmjustin Oct 2015 #1

Life is like DU...... daleanime Oct 2015 #2

The Hillary you all describe is the Hillary upaloopa Oct 2015 #3

The last thing I would like to do is artislife Oct 2015 #12

Sanders says Hillary's no-fly zone idea would make things worse - Is he wrecking Hillary's campaign? reformist2 Oct 2015 #13

Sanders doesn't know shit about foreign policy upaloopa Oct 2015 #22

Whereas Hillary's vast knowledge brought us the Libyan fiasco. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #27

You are correct him nor O'Malley know shit about approving arms sales to countries snooper2 Oct 2015 #58

Bringing up right wing proven bull shit slander really upaloopa Oct 2015 #98

LOL ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2015 #126

And apparently for a long while Hillary didn't "know shit" about TPP until just recently... cascadiance Oct 2015 #151

The same way you deal with Sanders hawkish views and his oblivious ties to corporations such Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #4

OK, so you claim both are equally corrupt - I guess that's one way of dealing with it. reformist2 Oct 2015 #15

equally is a goal move, a little leaven leaveneth the whole bunch... for the purity test Hillary is uponit7771 Oct 2015 #18

They stick their fingers in their ears and yell.... 99Forever Oct 2015 #5

They share them and/or wouldn't give a fuck even in a wet dream sleeping on a pillow made of Spanish TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #6

/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Oct 2015 #40

I think this is probably closest to the truth. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #107

+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #127

Answers. DanTex Oct 2015 #7

I agree with this post OKNancy Oct 2015 #10

In 2007, she voted for pre-emptive war against Iran (Kyl-Lieberman) jfern Oct 2015 #16

Your 3.4% number was proven to be a lie already. bobbobbins01 Oct 2015 #36

LOL. It was most certainly not "proven a lie". The numbers are right there at opensecrets DanTex Oct 2015 #39

You are being dishonest and you know it. bobbobbins01 Oct 2015 #41

You are being dishonest. Read my post. Nothing fuzzy about it, straight arithmitic. DanTex Oct 2015 #42

3.4% is in no way factual. That number is imaginary. bobbobbins01 Oct 2015 #43

Do the math yourself. 3.4% the portion of Hillary's total contributions that came from DanTex Oct 2015 #44

I'm done with this stupidity...your numbers are inaccurate. bobbobbins01 Oct 2015 #129

Wow, lots of sound and fury. DanTex Oct 2015 #130

Let's just look at who her top contributors have been and how much they've given. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #132

The companies whose employees have donated the most to her campaign are, DanTex Oct 2015 #134

Wow are you in denial. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #135

I'd say the same about you. But in the end, we have different opinions. DanTex Oct 2015 #136

Contribution loopholes you can drive a truck through. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #138

Of course, all those "loopholes"... DanTex Oct 2015 #145

Nice evade tactic. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #158

Even your first sentence is wrong. bobbobbins01 Oct 2015 #143

LOL. I stand corrected. 3.4% of "receipts" then. Thank you. DanTex Oct 2015 #144

I did not guess at all...I only illustrated the fallacy in your statement bobbobbins01 Oct 2015 #153

Again, I did not claim that no donors with less than 200 were bank employees. DanTex Oct 2015 #155

Your defense of Clinton is one thing. Garrett78 Oct 2015 #159

This sums up my thoughts perfectly Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2015 #120

Lovin the last half of you final sentence... ion_theory Oct 2015 #8

That baffles me and has for a long while. hifiguy Oct 2015 #9

How do they? They don't. nt artislife Oct 2015 #11

They don't care. Maedhros Oct 2015 #14

If I had a rocket launcher, some sonofabitch would die. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #31

Great,thanks for this. nt wendylaroux Oct 2015 #90

By thinking Sanders gumper views and ties to the gun industry are not far removed... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #17

My purity test for Hillary amounts to "Is she a Democrat?" LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #52

On social issues maybe she was a moderate but not now, what on economic issues uponit7771 Oct 2015 #65

Opposition to meaningful financial reform like reinstating Glass-Steagall hifiguy Oct 2015 #67

That's not meaningful reform, that's a meme spouted by someone to make people feel good but uponit7771 Oct 2015 #78

You mean other than being a founding member of the Koch-funded DLC that has morphed into LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #73

SSH! You're not supposed to mention that. hifiguy Oct 2015 #112

Like this: Fawke Em Oct 2015 #19

We need to bring all the votes in where military action has been taken, like bombing Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #20

He was voting for Bill Clinton's policy in 1999 Armstead Oct 2015 #23

Sanders made the decision to vote for the bombing, this is not the only time, he is responsible Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #26

You handily ignord my question. Was Clinton a Warmonger too? Armstead Oct 2015 #32

Okay, yes both Clinton and Bernie are warmongers, happy, also there are more votes. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #34

Yes, and it was a vote I think the vast majority here agree with LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #59

By the same token, if Sanders voted with the majority then Hillary also. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #71

No one here is criticizing Clinton for supporting the war in Afhganistan LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #77

Again, you say Hillary had horrible judgment, Sanders had horrible judgment in not requiring Bush Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #95

Jesus Christ. You're blaming Bernie for the Iraq war now??? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #99

It will not harm you to be honest about Bernie's record. senz Oct 2015 #119

And where did Bush claim the order came from for the terrorists attacks on 9/11. Iraq. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #123

Three days after 9/11, no one could claim to know for sure senz Oct 2015 #131

He was looking for something to invade Saddam before hie was elected, you must have heard "Saddam Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #133

True. The neocons were talking about invading Iraq before Bush was elected. senz Oct 2015 #137

We know what Bernie voted, naming Hillary as a war hawk and with votes Bernie has made he is a war Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #147

Bernie knew it was garbage & didn't vote for it. Hillary did. senz Oct 2015 #149

What the hell are you talkign about? LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #157

No clue ibegurpard Oct 2015 #21

A feature rather than a bug... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #24

Would you rather have a Republican? Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #25

I think the reasoning that "it's Hillary or we lose" is wrong. reformist2 Oct 2015 #28

That's kinda sad. n/t Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #29

Yes. If captured young and tender enough they cook up quite well LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #61

My cousin fantasizes about meeting her one day, has posters in her hallway. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #30

Far better than running the risk of a permanent Scaliafied SCOTUS. oasis Oct 2015 #33

Clinton's supporters "deal" with it by seeing it as propaganda, much of which originates in the RNC. McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #35

She led the push to bomb Libya, and has backtracked on reforming Wall Street. Facts. reformist2 Oct 2015 #37

There are none so blind... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #38

Oh so the RNC cares about Wall Street and warmongering. senz Oct 2015 #110

How do Sanders supporters deal with his hawkish views and his obvious ties to the MIC? BainsBane Oct 2015 #45

+1000 sheshe2 Oct 2015 #46

Well said! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #47

Excellent post Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #70

I've noticed that happens a lot. nt BainsBane Oct 2015 #108

Well I just dealt with her post, Bobbie Jo. senz Oct 2015 #117

No you didn't Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #122

That looks like tripe to me, patently false on the face of it. I responded to senz Oct 2015 #142

What a load. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #146

LOL, you're charming. senz Oct 2015 #148

Oh you have no idea, Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #152

Oh I probably do. senz Oct 2015 #154

Don't care. nt Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #156

You think we live in a "capitalist state, that this nation was born of capitalism?" senz Oct 2015 #115

You remember learning about the ideas that influenced the Founding Fathers, right? BainsBane Oct 2015 #121

I have some familiarity with enlightenment ideas. senz Oct 2015 #139

You may remember that we had slavery at the time of the nation's founding mythology Oct 2015 #125

Good post Gothmog Oct 2015 #124

+1 Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #128

Ignore it. mmonk Oct 2015 #48

Denial and excuses usually. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #49

I see almost no Hillary supporters interested in policy discussions LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #50

Because it makes no sense to debate with people upaloopa Oct 2015 #53

No, actually I see almost zero interest in policy discussions at all from Hillary supporters LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #55

No they don't upaloopa Oct 2015 #68

And yet Bernie Sanders supporters continue to try and debate with you... MoveIt Oct 2015 #105

Why discuss things with posters that are only trying to disrupt and see hrmjustin Oct 2015 #54

I guess then we are relegated to posting nothing but polls LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #57

Sander upporters regularly trash Hillary on a daily basis. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #62

Like when HC supporters call Bernie a racist, a shill for Israel and a pedophile protector? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #101

I will not deny that things were posted hereabout Sanders that shoukd not of but if we have hrmjustin Oct 2015 #104

Talking to Sanders supporters to me is like upaloopa Oct 2015 #69

It's a political discussion board. You're surpised when people LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #76

We know what Sanders' positions are upaloopa Oct 2015 #96

You're no doubt not looking hard enough, I'm leaning Hillary and would like to know since uponit7771 Oct 2015 #66

You want me to take seriously your desire to discuss policy when you start LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #72

Typical response, when policy discussion does come up there's usually a condescending cut n run uponit7771 Oct 2015 #82

Yep. The only argument I hear is that she's won already, so stop criticizing our nominee!! reformist2 Oct 2015 #118

Her supporters also have hawkish views and ties to wall street. WDIM Oct 2015 #51

They think it's all a right wing azmom Oct 2015 #56

funny, I have not seen one person DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #60

They do not care. JRLeft Oct 2015 #63

Look at the responses to this thread. Shows you what Sanders supporters think of hrmjustin Oct 2015 #64

Really? How about what hillarysupportes.com think of us, justin? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #74

Way to change the subject there. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #75

You asked: "So why bother engaging with people who just want to insult you?" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #80

Glad we agree. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #81

Yes. The things said about Bernistas at that site are far worse than anything we post here. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #83

I don't know why you would even bother talkiing to people that post there. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #84

Because hypocrisy. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #85

Look your attemot to bait me into a hide is clear. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #86

I'm not baiting you, just posting proof of the hypocrisy. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #88

Wait a minute. Curmudgeoness Oct 2015 #89

We are not the only ones to have an offsite group. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #97

So that is your excuse for saying horrible things Curmudgeoness Oct 2015 #100

What horrible things did I personally say? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #102

Be careful about posting screenshots, they try to get those posts hidden. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #109

Don't worry. Curmudgeoness Oct 2015 #111

So basically you can't answer the question. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #114

That sight is not DU... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #87

There are plenty of insulting things said here, too Rob H. Oct 2015 #91

Yes there are, but they don't get away with the most vile stuff. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #92

It wouldn't have helped persuade any fence-sitters Rob H. Oct 2015 #93

If they're so proud of it why not get a bumpersticker that says that? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #94

Mostly seems that they wholly embrace them Scootaloo Oct 2015 #79

Willful ignore-ance Android3.14 Oct 2015 #103

They deal with it by adopting her hawkish views and falling in love with Wall Street. senz Oct 2015 #106

Oh, bravo, senz! hifiguy Oct 2015 #113

Thank you, hifiguy. senz Oct 2015 #116

We vote for her. n/t Kang Colby Oct 2015 #140

Unvarnished truth? You gave an opinion, but you mistake it for the truth mythology Oct 2015 #141

Anyone can lie with statistics. You can call your results 'facts', but they are still opinions. reformist2 Oct 2015 #150