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MineralMan

(146,395 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:30 PM Oct 2015

Who are the Democratic Super Delegates? [View all]

Most people have no idea, really. Let me see if I can explain the process a little bit. Delegates to the Democratic National Presidential Convention come in two varieties, Pledged and Unpledged. Most delegates are pledged delegates, who are committed to vote for a particular candidate in at least the first round of voting for who will become the nominee. These are generally elected at state conventions, based on the results of primary elections or caucus voting. For example, if a state sends 36 pledged delegates to the national convention, and the primary election or caucus is divided 66% and 33% between two candidates, the candidate with 66% of the vote will get 24 pledged delegates, while the other candidate will get 12.

Those are pledged delegates. At the convention, they are expected to vote according to the results in their state, at least for the first round of voting.

There are some other types of pledged delegates, including at-large delegates who are also elected at state conventions, as compared to district-level delegates.

Then, there are unpledged delegates, who are not required to vote based on primary or caucus votes. These are fewer in number than the pledged delegates, and are selected based on other criteria. For example, Democratic Members of Congress and Senators are automatically delegates to the national convention. Democratic Governors, too, are usually delegates. All of those are unpledged delegates and may vote as they choose, even on the first ballot. Another group of unpledged delegates are generally made up of a state's members of the Democratic National Committee. That number, like all of the delegates, is based on the state's population. There may be a few other unpledged delegates, as well, depending on the state.

Those unpledged delegates are what are popularly called "Super Delegates." Their votes for the nominee at the National Convention are not necessarily based on the primary votes in their state or their state's caucus results. They are independent of all that, and are automatically delegates to the National Convention.

That's why people are paying so much attention to endorsements in the primary campaign by Congress Members and Senators. Those people will all be Super Delegates at the convention. You may not know who your Democratic National Committee members are in your state, but you can look that up on your state's Democratic Party website. Their votes, too, are not dependent on election results, and some will endorse candidates and telegraph their vote before the convention.

For example, in Minnesota, which sends a total of 94 delegates to the convention, only 16 are Super Delegates, made up of the following:

16 Unpledged PLEO delegates:
7 Democratic National Committee members.
7 Members of Congress (2 Senators and 5 Representatives).
1 Governor.
1 Distinguished Party Leader (former Vice President Walter "Fritz" Mondale).

So, how important are these Super Delegates? Well, you need to know their numbers. There will be a total of 4483 voting delegates at the convention. Of those, only 714 will be unpledged PLEOs or Super Delegates. They have considerable influence, particularly if the other delegates are more or less equally divided. If there is much of a difference between the number of pledged delegates for the candidates, the Super Delegates have less impact.

Here's a cool website, where you can look up your own state and see how delegates are chosen and how many delegates your state sends to the convention:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D

The more you know, the more you understand.

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The more you know, the more you understand. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #1
That's the system used by the Democratic Party. MineralMan Oct 2015 #2
I am a member. All it actually takes is a donation. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #4
Superdelegates are a buffer Yupster Oct 2015 #13
Would you really want DONALD TRUMP as our nominee for president? Hortensis Oct 2015 #36
An absolutly disgusting falsehood and hardly worthy of a reply. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #38
Pure unfettered and unsupportable delusional nonsense from the Say Anything Gang. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #39
Now, now. I only said "a very large portion." You have to admit Hortensis Oct 2015 #40
Anger doesn't translate to rudderless and no I've not seen these votes that just as easily flog to T TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #41
Here's another in fewer words, Kentuckian. Hortensis Oct 2015 #43
What does that have to do with Sanders supporters flipping to Trump or any Republican TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #49
I never said they'd flip. I said thank goodness Trump decided Hortensis Oct 2015 #50
Are we being overrun by Republican trolls here? INdemo Oct 2015 #51
In a word.. workinclasszero Oct 2015 #53
Classic MM whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #5
You can change it, but you have to work your way up to MineralMan Oct 2015 #8
Yeah, we all got time for that whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #10
Yah, good luck with that, too. MineralMan Oct 2015 #21
Trash thread. BernieFan57 Oct 2015 #42
You must have read a lot of my posts in the past MineralMan Oct 2015 #47
A buffer against what? Why is a buffer needed at all? arcane1 Oct 2015 #30
Its purpose was to make the convention less subject to control by party leaders. still_one Oct 2015 #31
I can't really answer that question. MineralMan Oct 2015 #32
How is it rigged? jeez workinclasszero Oct 2015 #52
It favors establishment democrats and no that is not very democratic. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #59
Right because networking workinclasszero Oct 2015 #60
What the hell? When did I imply I could just snap my fingers? Live and Learn Oct 2015 #61
"thwarting the will of the people" workinclasszero Oct 2015 #62
Seriously, you admit it. "You damn right I'm trying like hell to 'thwart the will of the people'" Live and Learn Oct 2015 #63
Some delegates are more equal than other delegates. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #3
Each delegate has just one vote in every round of MineralMan Oct 2015 #6
I'm going to butt in here... quickesst Oct 2015 #34
Thanks. I'm trying to provide information. MineralMan Oct 2015 #35
I know quickesst Oct 2015 #37
This sort of crap needs to go pinebox Oct 2015 #7
It is what it is. MineralMan Oct 2015 #9
There has to be a mechanism in place. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #11
It used to happen all the time Yupster Oct 2015 #15
I don't believe it has happened in our lifetime... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #17
Most famous were in 1860 and 1924 Yupster Oct 2015 #19
Wasn't around for that. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #20
There is. they have another vote, until MineralMan Oct 2015 #23
I remember in 1980 when Ted Kennedy wanted delegates released on the first ballot. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #24
I would vote for Carter again in a flash. MineralMan Oct 2015 #27
I wonder how this board would have reacted. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #28
I don't know. That was another time. MineralMan Oct 2015 #29
No pinebox Oct 2015 #12
I would have no problem in eliminating the Electoral College as long there is a run off ... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #14
So vote whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #16
Yes. Vote. That's always my advice. MineralMan Oct 2015 #25
The only thing hard to understand is why you find it necessary or worthwhile whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #33
Actually it is, but I'm not just encouraging DUers to vote. MineralMan Oct 2015 #48
panic sets in wyldwolf Oct 2015 #18
Not endorcements, superdelegates. And yes, they matter but they can be overcome. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #22
Yes, they do matter. MineralMan Oct 2015 #26
Yes they matter mcar Oct 2015 #44
I learned something new today mcar Oct 2015 #45
Glad to help! MineralMan Oct 2015 #46
Yes thanks for the info MM workinclasszero Oct 2015 #54
As I said, the more we know, the more we understand. MineralMan Oct 2015 #55
I hope you continue with this workinclasszero Oct 2015 #56
I'll do my best to do that. MineralMan Oct 2015 #57
If Hillary gets the nomination by amassing super delegates, but Bernie wins the actual vote - djean111 Oct 2015 #58
Yup Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #65
That will not occur. MineralMan Oct 2015 #66
Good article Gothmog Oct 2015 #64
Thanks for the info. Posts like yours is why I keep coming here. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #67
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