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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
21. It's not just Republicans.
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:59 PM
May 2015

In 1988, I was supporting Senator Paul Simon for the Democratic nomination, but the supporters of Governor Michael Dukakis made the argument about executive experience. That's obviously not the only reason he won the nomination, but I'm sure it helped. Of course, in 2004, Governor Howard Dean lost to Senator John Kerry, and in 2012 Governor Bill Richardson finished behind several Senators, so I'm not saying it's an automatic formula for electoral success.

As for being a good President, there's also no automatic formula. In 1988, we in the Simon campaign were pointing out that a Senator acquires more familiarity with a wide range of federal issues, such as foreign policy, that a Governor just reads about in the paper, and the same could be said of Sanders as compared with O'Malley.

With regard to Truman and Johnson, their VP experiences don't matter much, because at the time each won his sole Presidential race, he'd been President for a while. Better examples would be the current or former VP's who hadn't been President (Nixon, Bush41, Gore). The extent to which they were in the loop might not be known, or even considered, except by politics junkies. For millions of voters, they had the image of having been in an executive position, instead of just voting Yea or Nay on bills (which is the oversimplified image many people have of what Senators do).

Why Not Martin O'Malley? [View all] Raine1967 May 2015 OP
Good to see it here, Raine. elleng May 2015 #1
I met Gov O'Malley last summer when he was campaigning Peacetrain May 2015 #2
I met him this spring, and he impressed me as well. Raine1967 May 2015 #3
I hope so Raine! Peacetrain May 2015 #4
because he is not an announced candidate for anything? nt msongs May 2015 #5
He will be announcing on May 30. HE has leased space as a campaign HQ. Raine1967 May 2015 #7
My question would be, what does he bring to the table that Bernie doesn't? Jester Messiah May 2015 #6
here is a good article about him: Raine1967 May 2015 #8
If you want to find out more about O'Malley, go to the O'Malley Group. Koinos May 2015 #9
He has executive experience, which the voters seem to value. Jim Lane May 2015 #10
Republicans put a lot of emphasis on having been a Governor and/or a member of the military. merrily May 2015 #19
It's not just Republicans. Jim Lane May 2015 #21
I know it's not just Republicans, but they tend to emphasize gubernatorial and merrily May 2015 #22
Our media is such a huge part of the problem! CrispyQ May 2015 #11
When I think back to the 2008 POTUS campaign coverage (meaning even before 2008) Raine1967 May 2015 #12
I don't think O'Malley will be ignored by the media. Koinos May 2015 #13
Case in point, CrispyQ - WSJ: "Hillary vs. 19 Republicans" 5/20/15 RiverLover May 2015 #25
Thanks Raine! demwing May 2015 #14
To play devil's advocate swilton May 2015 #15
Was that why he was elected twice as governor? Raine1967 May 2015 #16
The poll was recent - within the past couple of months swilton May 2015 #17
O'Malley was re-elected Governor in 2010 by a wider margin demwing May 2015 #18
In this forum, posters discuss candidates, including Hillary, freely. merrily May 2015 #20
O'Malley's problem is finding space between Sanders and Clinton. geek tragedy May 2015 #23
You make valid points. Raine1967 May 2015 #24
It's also hard to reconcile his support for Clinton in the 2008 Campaign swilton May 2015 #26
Failed to mention Bernie Sanders INdemo May 2015 #27
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