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merrily

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Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:37 AM Jun 2016

Exactly how self-defeating have we become? [View all]

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During a Democratic Presidential primary, we will endlessly debate policies, personalities, etc. as though our very lives and those of our families depend on it--and they well may.

However, as soon as it at least starts looks like we may have a Democratic Presidential nominee, we pivot to "But don't expect anything much good to come after Inauguration Day because Congress."

We'll even accept and defend a Democratic President's nominating a Republican to the Supreme Court. Apparently, we draw the line only at a Republican President nominating a Republican to the Supreme Court.



But...why can we expect nothing much from Congress? Because Congress is not responsive to the will of voters, at least not sufficiently. Why isn't Congress sufficiently responsive to the will of the voters? Most humans seem to enjoy feathering their own nests and those of their relatives, friends and lovers; and politicians seem to love being elected and re-elected. Being elected and re-elected seems to require campaign donations from big business and the very wealthy as much or more than it requires representing more ordinary constituents. A feathered nest during post-public career often involves a lobbying job, sometimes disguised as a law firm job. So, legislators are loathe to annoy their potential future employers, aka big business and various business interest groups.

So, what do the majority of Americans do? We do not insist upon laws that will at least seek to cut into this undesirable pattern. We reject the candidate who talks AND WALKS accepting donations only from ordinary individuals. We condemn primary challenges and defend to the death every law, policy and practice that helps keep incumbents entrenched, thereby insulating them as much as we possibly can from a need to be responsive to voters. We even accept rigged voting machines and other shenanigans, especially if our candidate wins. If shenanigans cause our candidate to lose, we may grouse, but, in the end, we do nothing--at least nothing that requires us to leave our computers. Perhaps, we may send yet another oh, so very effective email or "sign" yet another one of those oh, so very effective internet petitions.

My conclusion: With everything in us, we want absolutely nothing to improve--unless, of course, our fearless leaders tell us something must improve--which they seem to do most when the opposite party is in the majority. When they stop rabble-rousing about that topic, so do we. Oh, and though we call them the "public airwaves," we allow them to be in private, plutocrat hands that only help perpetuate all of the foregoing.

For anyone who assumes this post is about 2016 or Senator Sanders and only about 2016 and Senator Sanders, you are mistaken: Not only do I intend to be alive in 2018 and well beyond, but I assume and hope that our children and other descendants will be alive much longer, environment willing, and the oceans don't rise (too much more).

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Good God,,,, SmittynMo Jun 2016 #1
LOL! I think I love you, too. Thank you so much. merrily Jun 2016 #3
Merrily does ROCK! Duval Jun 2016 #32
How long is a piece of string? Fairgo Jun 2016 #2
IMO, Mr. Google can cure, not all, but a lot of ignorance. Not sure how to cure stupid. merrily Jun 2016 #4
Stupid tends to be a terminal condition Fairgo Jun 2016 #5
I feel bad. I think I will change the title of the OP. merrily Jun 2016 #17
Bravo! Paka Jun 2016 #6
Brilliant post Merrily. dead on. nt retrowire Jun 2016 #7
Thank you retro. merrily Jun 2016 #8
The stupid learned helplessness makes us look stupid. So, we soundlessly go back to work. Festivito Jun 2016 #9
Thanks, Festivito. That is very poetic. merrily Jun 2016 #10
Depends on what arouses the hatred. Disdain of psychology, or hits to close. eom Festivito Jun 2016 #11
Neither, but what depends on what arouses the hatred? merrily Jun 2016 #12
You "hate the whole concept of learned helplessness..." Why? eom Festivito Jun 2016 #13
For one thing, I am not sure I fully understand it. merrily Jun 2016 #14
Stockholm syndrome, learned helplessness, stupidity. Do any of us really know what to do about them? Festivito Jun 2016 #15
Ah, thanks. merrily Jun 2016 #16
One way was to let it get so bad that people would awaken. Bush pushed us into Obama. Festivito Jun 2016 #19
How does self-defeating strike you? merrily Jun 2016 #18
Yup. All those things are self defeating. When can we vote against our own self interest again? Festivito Jun 2016 #20
That is a different issue than the issues the OP raised. merrily Jun 2016 #22
You are a very thoughtful person... Fairgo Jun 2016 #21
Thank you. My OP addressed that, albeit perhaps obliquely. merrily Jun 2016 #23
I follow your posts for that very reason Fairgo Jun 2016 #33
Of course, but "pivot"? Bernin4U Jun 2016 #24
Good news is, we don't have to listen to anyone we do not choose to listen to. merrily Jun 2016 #25
Still, I question why you say "pivot" Bernin4U Jun 2016 #26
I said "we pivot" because that is my perception of what we as a people do. Well, maybe not as merrily Jun 2016 #27
Right, Obama had us hopefull. Bernin4U Jun 2016 #29
They do not buy that 99% of the people have to keep merrily Jun 2016 #30
+1000 n/t Triana Jun 2016 #35
" ... because Congress." Martin Eden Jun 2016 #28
Ted Kennedy, Harry Byrd. another guy whose name I won't even type. merrily Jun 2016 #31
Yep. It's amazing that the citizenry has not rioted over corporations controlling Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #34
I wrote sonething similar on Facebook last night noiretextatique Jun 2016 #36
Thank you. Sanders has given many Americans a view of merrily Jun 2016 #37
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