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93. 'Forced busing' didn't fail. Desegregation is the best way to improve our schools.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jun 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/23/forced-busing-didnt-fail-desegregation-is-the-best-way-to-improve-our-schools/?utm_term=.ca606c37bcac

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Since the Reagan administration’s “A Nation at Risk” report pronounced that schools across the country were failing, every president has touted a new plan to close the racial academic achievement gap: President Obama installed Race to the Top; George W. Bush had No Child Left Behind; and Clinton pushed Goals 2000. The nation has commissioned studies, held conferences and engaged in endless public lamentation over how to get poor students and children of color to achieve at the level of wealthy white students — as if how to close this opportunity gap was a mystery. But we forget that we’ve done it before. Racial achievement gaps were narrowest at the height of school integration.

U.S. schools have become more segregated since 1990, and students in major metropolitan areas have been most severely divided by race and income, according to the University of California at Los Angeles’s Civil Rights Project. Racially homogenous neighborhoods that resulted from historic housing practices such as red-lining have driven school segregation. The problem is worst in the Northeast — the region that, in many ways, never desegregated — where students face some of the largest academic achievement gaps: in Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts and the District of Columbia.

More than 60 years after Brown v. Board of Education, federal education policies still implicitly accept the myth of “separate but equal,” by attempting to improve student outcomes without integrating schools. Policymakers have tried creating national standards, encouraging charter schools, implementing high-stakes teacher evaluations and tying testing to school sanctions and funding. These efforts sought to make separate schools better but not less segregated. Ending achievement and opportunity gaps requires implementing a variety of desegregation methods – busing, magnet schools, or merging school districts, for instance – to create a more just public education system that successfully educates all children.

Public radio’s “This American Life” reminded us of this reality in a two-part report this summer, called “The Problem We All Live With.” The program noted that, despite declarations that busing to desegregate schools failed in the 1970s and 1980s, that era actually saw significant improvement in educational equity. When the National Assessment of Educational Progress began in the early 1970s, there was a 53-point gap in reading scores between black and white 17-year-olds. That chasm narrowed to 20 points by 1988. During that time, every region of the country except the Northeast saw steady gains in school integration. In the South in 1968, 78 percent of black children attended schools with almost exclusively minority students; by 1988, only 24 percent did. In the West during that period, the figure declined from 51 percent to 29 percent.

But since 1988, when education policy shifted away from desegregation efforts, the reading test score gap has grown — to 26 points in 2012 — with segregated schooling increasing in every region of the country.

Research has shown that integration is a critical factor in narrowing the achievement gap. In a 2010 research review, Harvard University’s Susan Eaton noted that racial segregation in schools has such a severe impact on the test score-gap that it outweighs the positive effects of a higher family income for minority students. Further, a 2010 study of students’ improvements in math found that the level of integration was the only school characteristic (vs. safety and community commitment to math) that significantly affected students’ learning growth. In an analysis of the landmark 1966 “Coleman Report,” researchers Geoffrey Borman and Maritza Dowling determined that both the racial and socioeconomic makeups of a school are 1¾-times more important in determining a student’s educational outcomes than the student’s own race, ethnicity or social class.

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The City That Believed in Desegregation. Integration isn't easy, but Louisville, Kentucky, has decided that it's worth it

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/the-city-that-believed-in-desegregation/388532/

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The Supreme Court decided against Jefferson County, ruling in favor of a parent who argued that her son’s bus ride was too long. But in the years since, the district has found other creative ways of keeping its schools diverse. Today, the Louisville area is one of the few regions in the country that still buses students among urban and suburban neighborhoods. Jefferson County Public Schools is 49 percent white, 37 percent black, and 14 percent Latino and other ethnic and racial groups.

The county, which borders Indiana on the south, spreads across 400 square miles and encompasses census tracts in which more than half of the population lives below the poverty level, and tracts in which less than 10 percent does. But there are no struggling inner-city schools here—the city and county schools are under the same district, and the most sought-after high school within it, duPont Manual, is located near downtown.

Indeed, it could be argued that Louisville, an economically vibrant city in a highly conservative and segregated state, is a success today in large part because of its integrated schools and the collaborations among racial and economic groups that have come as a result. “Our PTA president will drive downtown into neighborhoods she probably would not have gone to, to pick up kids to bring to her house for sleepovers,” said Jessica Rosenthal, the principal at Hawthorne Elementary. “I just don’t know how likely that is to happen in a normal school setting.”

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The integration plan in Jefferson County and Louisville might not be perfect, but the very fact that the region is still trying to work together and provide equal opportunity to all of its students makes it stand out, said Gary Orfield, of the Civil Rights Project. When most other regions have given up, or fought integration plans with every resource, Louisville has continued to strive for diversity. In 2012, for example, half of the 14 candidates running for Jefferson County School Board ran on a platform of replacing the school-assignment policy with one that would have let students attend their neighborhood schools. All seven candidates were defeated at the polls

That conscious commitment to diversity indicates that Louisville is still thinking about how to try and make things fair, Orfield said. “School integration was never meant to be the only solution, but it is it is an essential and necessary element, they’ve at least kept that going, in spite of all kinds of problems over the years,” Orfield said. “They believe it works, not perfectly but a lot better than the alternatives.” It’s possible that commitment to diversity is a result of the integration that was forced on the region, in the 1970s. Now, people who grew up in integrated schools want the same for their children.


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Joe Biden
Bussing never worked and everyone hated it. Equality in education democratisphere Jun 2019 #1
When would it have come along? Because it's nearly 50 years later and we're nowhere close. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #2
When? When communities offered voluntary busing. When it became a choice not a mandate. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #4
Do I think Jackson MS would offer voluntary busing? dawg day Jun 2019 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #56
Why are you saying that? Who are you saying it to? dawg day Jun 2019 #57
That picture customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #71
They didn't claim it was from the 1970s StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #73
That is a relevant photo customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #74
No. The point of the photo as I saw it was to ask someone who said StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #76
Observant and quick. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #77
My point was that THIS-- what the picture showed- came before busing dawg day Jun 2019 #86
I don't have to answer to you. What would you have done? Do you. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #103
To be honest... UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2019 #102
According to VP Biden, we should apparently let these things be up to the states KitSileya Jun 2019 #75
well.. why don't we ask some REAL experts about Biden ...John Lewis and Jim Clyburn to start Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #79
Why did you reference Jackson Michigan ? MichMan Jun 2019 #82
That's where Medgar Evers did his integration activism and was assassinated for it- dawg day Jun 2019 #88
In Michigan??? MichMan Jun 2019 #92
Oh, sorry, you're right. Jackson MS dawg day Jun 2019 #95
Even after integration.. cannabis_flower Jun 2019 #110
If anything, it is worse. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #5
When substantial investment was made in community schools to provide equal quality in emmaverybo Jun 2019 #26
But it has not. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #3
Wait what AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #11
I grew up in a suburb in L.A., mostly white and middle class happyaccident Jun 2019 #15
The program made my parents extremely angry. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #29
I did not hate it. We had it for only one generation of students delisen Jun 2019 #33
Do you mean White people hated it? sacto95834 Jun 2019 #45
correct K&R onetexan Jun 2019 #54
When will that start? Bettie Jun 2019 #87
'Forced busing' didn't fail. Desegregation is the best way to improve our schools. Celerity Jun 2019 #93
When? Chitown Kev Jun 2019 #121
This and here is the history.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #6
I will read the link, and thank you for it. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #8
No Problem... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #10
Just heard Professor Kehinde Andrews of Birmingham University KitSileya Jun 2019 #78
Well stated. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #97
Biden's problen is that he worked with known racists to oppose bussing. bluewater Jun 2019 #7
Some had other reasons to oppose busing. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #9
This 'ISSUE' was a political maneuver by Harris. Period. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #12
The "issue" is based on actual history and fact. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #14
She created this issue on the back of Biden to exploit. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #22
Are you suggesting she has a time machine? AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #24
Nicely done. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #27
It is refreshing AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #30
Yes, it is. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #32
It is quite interesting! AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #44
Were we talking about busing yesterday? Are you taking the word 'created' literally. UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #38
It came up, over the political character of a candidate. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #43
Hey let's just keep doing the work for the pukes and we can send someone into the general UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #49
I don't care if a Democrat shoots someone on 5th avenue either. marylandblue Jun 2019 #94
If you don't want candidates that know how to play to win, what's the point of showing up to the AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #144
1972 wyldwolf Jun 2019 #13
True, but to your point: guillaumeb Jun 2019 #17
When busing was removed from the mix, the support for school desegration doubled wyldwolf Jun 2019 #21
Busing a tool, not an end StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #37
Has busing been "removed from the mix?" My kid was bused in 2003 to a different middle school dawg day Jun 2019 #89
We're referring to a poll where busing was removed from the equation and treated as a separate issue wyldwolf Jun 2019 #90
"Clearly compulsory busing was unpopular with a vast majority of Americans" bluewater Jun 2019 #19
It's 50 freaking years ago...sorry you can't move on and it's so 'indefensible'. UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #23
Not apologizing for it now is indefensible. bluewater Jun 2019 #31
Oh yes the original sin...being 'civil' to racist dixiecrats. UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #36
Don't forget working with them in the Senate to oppose bussing. bluewater Jun 2019 #40
Oh my god he opposed busing which his constituents also opposed. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #42
but he didnt say that during the debate AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #112
If what happened "50 freaking years ago" is irrelevant, why did he bring it up? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #145
But that's beside the point. Goodheart Jun 2019 #20
And in 1978, the judge in Evans v. Buchanan had enough of Delaware's bullshit jberryhill Jun 2019 #35
Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #60
Thanks for the factual background. BlueWI Jun 2019 #67
Well polls indicated racism and segregation were quite popular then, too. Hoyt Jun 2019 #52
Damned straight jberryhill Jun 2019 #63
The 70s called and want their issues back treestar Jun 2019 #70
Agreed customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #72
Here are Biden's own words Goodheart Jun 2019 #16
As I noted, busing was a response to second class schools and opportunities. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #18
That's beside the point. Maybe he should have used that in his defense? Goodheart Jun 2019 #25
Possibly. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #28
Put a person in a corner and then make them chose between two options to answer a complex emmaverybo Jun 2019 #34
LOL. Get real. Goodheart Jun 2019 #39
That is true, but racism is so endemic to the system guillaumeb Jun 2019 #46
And she was bused on a voluntary system. Her parents were highly educated; not all if Berkley emmaverybo Jun 2019 #48
She is a non-white female running in a very racist, very misogynistic country. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #50
She should be confronting THEM. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #51
And she will. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #58
In other words, confront the guy who isn't an actual proud and flagrant racist supported by emmaverybo Jun 2019 #66
Bravo!! Well said Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #81
She has blunted legitimate attacks on true racists R B Garr Jun 2019 #107
YES. Unfortunately for no other reason. She is not confronting racists or racism in America, but emmaverybo Jun 2019 #111
It's a very questionable strategy about racism, for sure. R B Garr Jun 2019 #120
I'm trying to understand the picture you're painting of Sen. Harris. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #84
Thank you! Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #85
You are welcome. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #98
Indeed and the polls prove it Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #80
No. Integration was a response to segregation in schools. Busing was one method to achieve a goal. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #41
Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #47
Busing was simply the method of transporting students to the new schools they were assigned to StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #134
I have to laugh Dan Jun 2019 #55
Yes indeed. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #61
Yep jberryhill Jun 2019 #64
The first day of forced busing in Lubbock, Tx. resulted in a dead Black student... czarjak Jun 2019 #59
Separate but equal was invented by racists to justify segregation. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #62
Where I lived working class Blacks and Whites lived literally right beside Blue_true Jun 2019 #65
Here's the thing jberryhill Jun 2019 #68
In the Deep South, it was economics. Blue_true Jun 2019 #69
Sundown laws were more common in the north unc70 Jun 2019 #91
And segregation does not need to be written into the law. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #106
BS wyldwolf Jun 2019 #96
Black people were bused to inferior schools, often pass White schools. Blue_true Jun 2019 #99
Your reply makes zero sense. wyldwolf Jun 2019 #100
You just don't get it. Blue_true Jun 2019 #104
NO it was not wyldwolf Jun 2019 #113
The information that I gave was summarized from Wikipedia and an NPR story about public Blue_true Jun 2019 #114
Wikipedia and NPR? Link? Or was it your intepretation? wyldwolf Jun 2019 #116
Show me your links. I read both information sources and both agreed, that is Blue_true Jun 2019 #118
So your response is "show me your links first?" LOL. You have none. wyldwolf Jun 2019 #119
i was bused in late grade school. went to an early magnet school. i loved it. pansypoo53219 Jun 2019 #83
Not in Berkeley, California, it wasn't... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #101
To your points: guillaumeb Jun 2019 #105
So again, are you going to argue that housing prices are something to be regulated by the federal RHMerriman Jun 2019 #108
Segregation by race impacts how people can accumulate wealth. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #109
And segregation by race in housing via restricted convenants has been illegal since 1948 RHMerriman Jun 2019 #117
The issue is not moot. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #122
Then have the 'threateners" investigated and face the consequences of their actions RHMerriman Jun 2019 #123
So it is that easy? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #126
Does that mean to combat it you're going to argue the federal government RHMerriman Jun 2019 #128
We will agree to disagree. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #129
Yes, and now that it is illegal, racism has disappeared. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #124
Yeah, crime doesn't disappear when it is made illegal. RHMerriman Jun 2019 #125
Actually, it was a response to mandates resulting from Brown v. Board of Education, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #115
This excellent response deserves to be its own post. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #127
I was bussed so have first hand experience. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #130
Busing was an attempt at forced integration. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #131
Busing was simply the method of transporting students to the new schools StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #132
Excellent point. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #133
in my personal experience, limited as it might be, it was indeed the bus. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #135
I hear you StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #136
I wonder if the time frame and geography played a role. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #137
Busing didn't push them away. Desegregation did. StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #138
I respect your opinion. And In a majority of cases it is true. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #139
I understand and appreciate your perspective StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #140
Good points. But I do think there were better alternatives. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #141
A lot of these remedies are great on concept but either unworkable or too slow StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #142
There we agree. Hindsight is always 20/20. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #143
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