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mikeysnot

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175. The Hasty Generalization Fallacy

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:40 AM

Feb 2020

This fallacy occurs when someone draws expansive conclusions based on inadequate or insufficient evidence. In other words, they jump to conclusions about the validity of a proposition with some -- but not enough -- evidence to back it up, and overlook potential counterarguments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sorry, but "Bernie Bros" is the relatively BENIGN term for the vile scum-buckets to whom [View all] Atticus Feb 2020 OP

Agree Horizens Feb 2020 #1

+1! Cha Feb 2020 #115

It never referred to that until now, with your post Blues Heron Feb 2020 #2

It's always meant that. Codeine Feb 2020 #16

Disagree Blues Heron Feb 2020 #22

Can you support the allegation of redefining particular words with any evidence or data? LanternWaste Feb 2020 #27

Sorry, not a fail. lark Feb 2020 #91

Hey Lark DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #101

Sorry, what did you mean by "any and all ways we can......."? lark Feb 2020 #107

Not you Lark, DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #134

Again, I miswrote or you took me wrong. DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #135

I totally agree with that definition. That's what they have always been. Squinch Feb 2020 #127

Exactly! justie18 Feb 2020 #28

They're not all young. yardwork Feb 2020 #104

I respectfully disagree. cab67 Feb 2020 #167

The whole nickname thing is used as a broad brush though Blues Heron Feb 2020 #170

I've never seen it used to describe all Bernie supporters. cab67 Feb 2020 #171

It's used to tar his entire campaign. Blues Heron Feb 2020 #174

You may be right but it also alienates all Sanders supporters who feel like they are being grouped Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #3

+1,000 n/t MarcA Feb 2020 #14

LOL HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #23

I should have said sexist Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #48

I'm a Bernie Bro Cartoonist Feb 2020 #50

If you voted for Hillary wryter2000 Feb 2020 #54

This! mcar Feb 2020 #58

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #60

I voted for Hillary I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #89

I voted for Hillary cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #108

+1 mitch96 Feb 2020 #62

Agree I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #87

Racial??? LakeArenal Feb 2020 #31

You are correct, but it won't make a dent. The anti-Sanders/Sanders supporters KPN Feb 2020 #61

No, it's not helpful, but the behavior is atrocious. lark Feb 2020 #94

That's an insultingly false analogy. yardwork Feb 2020 #105

Know what else isn't helpful? cab67 Feb 2020 #169

Has Bernie said anything publicly telling them to stop? gollygee Feb 2020 #4

Here you go Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #8

I'm very glad to see that gollygee Feb 2020 #10

Ahhh... both sides. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #15

Yep. That again... ehrnst Feb 2020 #126

well, maybe this week stopdiggin Feb 2020 #18

Not this week. A year ago. Squinch Feb 2020 #145

Ummm that is not telling them to stop outright though. cstanleytech Feb 2020 #20

February 24, ****2019*** "Both sides" need to stop? ehrnst Feb 2020 #128

Oh look, he's also saying that it may be people 'impersonating his supporters" ehrnst Feb 2020 #129

A year ago. It didnt work too well. Squinch Feb 2020 #143

He has said some things, but only by saying "everyone is doing it and should stop" or something like redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #12

he "floated" this.. Cha Feb 2020 #121

That floats like an air biscuit... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #131

.. Cha Feb 2020 #132

That isn't good enough gollygee Feb 2020 #137

I know.. and yes he does! make it stop. Cha Feb 2020 #138

"It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds." ehrnst Feb 2020 #139

It doesn't "float". Cha Feb 2020 #140

What I don't understand The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #5

I have wondered this too. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #11

Very eloquent and reasonable points. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #32

Russian meddling in 2016 included Sogo Feb 2020 #75

How can someone further infiltrate a campaign organization that has MineralMan Feb 2020 #77

Perhaps I didn't express my comment to your precision. Sogo Feb 2020 #79

Or it could be that Bernie defenders on this site see mass hypocrisy. Rilgin Feb 2020 #117

That's a lot to unpack but I'll try. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #133

Thank You. Will try to continue with the same civility and with actual substance. Rilgin Feb 2020 #149

Excellent Comment McKim Feb 2020 #165

This deserves its own thread and the response.. juliuswest Feb 2020 #142

Doxxing, threatening, bullying, etc that we radius777 Feb 2020 #150

Did I doxx or Bully you. Have you seen that happen here? Rilgin Feb 2020 #152

It's just Bernie Bros nobuddy Feb 2020 #168

Thank You. Rilgin Feb 2020 #187

False-equivalency/both-siderism. radius777 Feb 2020 #189

Is this definition from the Webster Dictionary or Random House? Rilgin Feb 2020 #190

Yes, I agree. Even a "I don't approve of (specific behavior), don't do it my name." ehrnst Feb 2020 #123

that would be a good start. Cha Feb 2020 #191

I don't use the term "BernieBros." MineralMan Feb 2020 #6

Oh I think it's our business to know why he doesn't condemn them. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #34

Why is probably because he doesn't object to their tactics, MineralMan Feb 2020 #76

I'll never forget his supporters booing Hillary's name after he lost California. He let them go on.. grossproffit Feb 2020 #7

And when they chanted "lock her up!" in Philadelphia at a rally... ehrnst Feb 2020 #130

K&R stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #9

They aren't Democrats. Lunabell Feb 2020 #13

our FDR roots aren't what *some* imagine it is. "Progressives" despised FDR wyldwolf Feb 2020 #24

Most trumpeting his name today couldn't pick him out of a photo lineup if their lives depended on it HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #26

Given that the word "progressive" had a well understood meaning in the 30/40s, denem Feb 2020 #42

would you prefer "far left," "socialists," "further-left liberals?" How about... wyldwolf Feb 2020 #47

the word 'communist' comes to mind denem Feb 2020 #49

not to mine wyldwolf Feb 2020 #52

The communist party and fellow travelers opposed FDR yes? denem Feb 2020 #57

is "fellow travelers" your 'out' phrase? wyldwolf Feb 2020 #64

Oh come on - 'fellow travelers' is also a well understood term denem Feb 2020 #68

sure, and none I listed would fit under that term... wyldwolf Feb 2020 #70

Huey Long "Share the Wealth" fits. denem Feb 2020 #74

Conservatives called it communism, communists disagreed. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #78

Few of the figures you list fit the bill as 'the far-left who despised FDR'. denem Feb 2020 #85

dueling quotes: wyldwolf Feb 2020 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author denem Feb 2020 #109

Internment camps? HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #25

Reductio ad absurdum. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #30

Move it to beat trump. Not other candidates or their supporters. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #35

There is nothing absurd about the Japanese internment camps. MineralMan Feb 2020 #80

FDR disavowed that any of his policies were socialism in any way shape or form... ehrnst Feb 2020 #144

Yep. LudwigPastorius Feb 2020 #17

"To be sure, these do not represent the majority of Sanders supporters" wyldwolf Feb 2020 #19

More than those saying no smears of Democrats. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #38

Shit. They are on his staff dalton99a Feb 2020 #21

+1 Historic NY Feb 2020 #33

Yes! justie18 Feb 2020 #37

Exactly. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #39

Creating a gauntlet for rally goers to walk still pisses me off. krissey Feb 2020 #29

The guy on the right holding the sign could be a Trumper. MH1 Feb 2020 #136

Respectfully, I agree 100% with this post. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #36

Putin punks. Dirtdude Feb 2020 #40

Um, remember "Hillbots" in 2008? Warpy Feb 2020 #41

This shit us getting old. Et tu Atticus. Your Bernie hatred earns you a spot on my full ignore list. CentralMass Feb 2020 #43

Well, bless your heart! You won't see this, of course, since you have me on ignore, but Atticus Feb 2020 #83

If Bernie cannot stop his people from harrassing others, Bernie is no leader. Plain and simple. Stuart G Feb 2020 #44

Thank God that our Leaders do not have the control that you seem to demand Rilgin Feb 2020 #120

How about a "This is unacceptable. Do not do this in my name." ehrnst Feb 2020 #122

OK Rilgin Feb 2020 #124

"Thousands of post a day attacking one candidate and all his supporters..." ehrnst Feb 2020 #125

Guess I was right. Rilgin Feb 2020 #147

Look in a mirror, Hon. ehrnst Feb 2020 #148

Couldn't agree with you more, Atticus. Paladin Feb 2020 #45

This is Getting Old and Unproductive McKim Feb 2020 #46

Please reread the OP. nt Atticus Feb 2020 #86

Bernie Loses Mjolnir1956 Feb 2020 #51

Yeah... don't care. Will vote for Dem nominee.... the_sly_pig Feb 2020 #53

+1 DetlefK Feb 2020 #55

They* are foul mcar Feb 2020 #56

SO, if Sanders wins the primaries, people who support other candidates should stay home on LiberalArkie Feb 2020 #59

Where in hell did you get that nonsense from my OP? nt Atticus Feb 2020 #88

Would like to see a study done on this Billsmile Feb 2020 #63

There's a lot of folks who are not, never will KPN Feb 2020 #65

You got that right. nt lillypaddle Feb 2020 #66

... LexVegas Feb 2020 #67

It amazes me that everyone thinks only Bernie supporters are spouting vile and disgusting things. airmid Feb 2020 #69

Nice try...all from 2016...see that is the issue...what you said isn't true... and back it up with Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #71

Whatever...if you bothered to look there is current stuff. airmid Feb 2020 #73

Awww, such sweet memories. progressoid Feb 2020 #82

We are a Democratic Party running a primary. Sanders himself says nasty stuff about the krissey Feb 2020 #93

They are populist extremists Dukkha Feb 2020 #72

Exactly! BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #96

Would it surprise you to know Women under 45 Maggiemayhem Feb 2020 #81

We'll never win elections without building coalitions. D23MIURG23 Feb 2020 #84

Totally disagree with your premise. The people who I described as "Bernie Bros" are not at Atticus Feb 2020 #95

Yes, this is how I feel. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #103

You evidently don't understand my premise. D23MIURG23 Feb 2020 #110

You evidently don't understand the nature of "Bernie Bros". They will most certainly vote for Atticus Feb 2020 #114

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #119

No fire, just agreement. lark Feb 2020 #90

Bottom Line Roy Rolling Feb 2020 #92

Thanks for your thoughtful response. I am sure it would surprise many of the other posters who Atticus Feb 2020 #98

Jackasses snort Feb 2020 #97

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #100

DU rec. I know one in real life and his behavior is atrocious. yardwork Feb 2020 #102

Wiki agrees. IADEMO2004 Feb 2020 #106

I agree which is why I could never support him then and MojoWrkn Feb 2020 #111

I have deleted all of them. I will not put up with redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #141

How many Bernie bros are Russian? Buzz cook Feb 2020 #112

How many were made viral by Sanders supporters? ehrnst Feb 2020 #118

Valid line of inquiry. Russia PLANS to disrupt/ divide/ our Democratic majority. joost5 Feb 2020 #179

It's become a loaded term TheFarseer Feb 2020 #113

K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #116

Lots of new people who just joined today. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #146

Perspective Vendiy Feb 2020 #151

The harassment. Can't vote them away. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #153

LOL Vendiy Feb 2020 #154

You posted a good example. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #155

Clarification please? Vendiy Feb 2020 #156

I'll add one: more harrassing than the thousands of unwarranted incarcerations Squinch Feb 2020 #158

Losing to Trump because of stupid bickering. marble falls Feb 2020 #162

it truely did leave a bad taste in my mouth for that candidate..still does... samnsara Feb 2020 #157

Benign term for Russian bots. AllyCat Feb 2020 #159

Convenient. nt Atticus Feb 2020 #160

speaking of those encouraging people to vote 🍊 on Election Day robbedvoter Feb 2020 #161

Haw about Sandersnistas? Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #163

Benign my ass. KPN Feb 2020 #164

What do you believe is an appropriate term for those described in the Atticus Feb 2020 #172

Doesn't need a term. My opinion: this is counterproductive, gains zero for our party or our KPN Feb 2020 #178

Don't be sorry about stating your genuine opinion. I think your view is myopic and Atticus Feb 2020 #182

Okay, I won't be. And of course you do. KPN Feb 2020 #185

Thanks for your thoughts. nt Atticus Feb 2020 #186

They remind me a lot of Ron Paul supporters. cab67 Feb 2020 #166

YES wisteria Feb 2020 #173

The Hasty Generalization Fallacy mikeysnot Feb 2020 #175

Think wkdjr Feb 2020 #176

"Drive by" attack much? You win "Most Disgusting Post" for this thread. Blech! nt Atticus Feb 2020 #177

Perhaps we should give them, instead, a Russian Themed Name, bobalew Feb 2020 #180

Are Turner, Sirota and Weaver Russians? nt Atticus Feb 2020 #183

Fortunately, no other candidate has supporters who ever act obnoxious online ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #181

Uh-huh, yeah, "they all do it" and "both parties are the same" and "all the primaries are RIGGED", Atticus Feb 2020 #184

I've certainly never seen such behavior on DU, for example ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #188