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In reply to the discussion: The Starbucks thing... [View all]ExciteBike66
(2,424 posts)"And it relies on decent people like you to paper over it and explain it away."
This is an insult and against the TOS.
"Then, when the police come and arrest them, THEY are defended What were they SUPPOSED to do? Once they were called and the manager said they were trespassing and they didnt leave, they HAD to arrest them! They had no choice! "
The cops did not just bust in and arrest the guys. The video that starts when the police arrives shows that they talk to the guys for 6-7 minutes before arresting them. They state that the guys were asked to leave and refused. Then they were ordered to leave and refused. That right there is actually criminal trespassing at that point. It sucks, but that is the law and the cops are sworn to uphold that law. It doesn't seem like the did anything other than their job here.
I am still curious about what you think the cops should have done further. You state they should have de-escalated the situation. Fine. How? Convince the manager that she should let them stay? How do you know they didn't try to do that? It would have been logical once the guys said they were waiting for someone. What if they could not convince her? Would you have been ok with them removing the men at that point? How many minutes should they have waited?