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90. I will not be judging Democrats

Fri Aug 24, 2018, 06:39 PM

Aug 2018

Last edited Fri Aug 24, 2018, 11:46 PM - Edit history (1)

If one chooses to disrespect John McCain, I can see good reasons. Unfortunately hateful, malignant Republicans have brought us to that point.

It occurs to me that we Democrats judge ourselves too harshly, too often. I would love to see us give ourselves a break. We get enough garbage from "conservatives." We can refrain from dumping on ourselves if we choose. And who are we fooling? The pukes will not appreciate any example we set, ever.

To any fellow Democrat who sees fit to disrespect Kohn McCain, go for it.

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On McCain's deathbed, try for some common decency, DUers, for what it says about us... [View all] Hekate Aug 2018 OP

Thanks! MineralMan Aug 2018 #1

There, but for the grace of God, goeth I...or any of you. Kajun Gal Aug 2018 #153

I'll always respect him, especially for his opposition to torture SharonAnn Aug 2018 #165

K & Rec . obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2018 #2

Great post. MicaelS Aug 2018 #3

Fuck that gopiscrap Aug 2018 #4

Just don't get the lack decency Armymedic88 Aug 2018 #23

there is no decency in politics anymore gopiscrap Aug 2018 #30

We know what Trump would say... dubyadiprecession Aug 2018 #35

What a selfish attitude cungar2000 Aug 2018 #47

Enemy. The word you are looking for is enemy. ret5hd Aug 2018 #54

Wrong. orangecrush Aug 2018 #203

Maybe so...if this is only a game or sport to you. ret5hd Aug 2018 #204

Under rule of law orangecrush Aug 2018 #215

this all politics if we don't harden up gopiscrap Aug 2018 #86

Trashing dying men is not "hardening up." It's just petty, bullying behavior EffieBlack Aug 2018 #96

yeah and by being mean who won the 2016 presidential election gopiscrap Aug 2018 #228

The problem with winning "by being mean" EffieBlack Aug 2018 #229

You sir, are just as bad as the repubs with your lack of compassion and empathy. N/T john657 Aug 2018 #111

yes I don't care as long as a Dem wins gopiscrap Aug 2018 #120

If we have to become republicans to win, we have already lost it. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #123

this (n/t) Lefta Dissenter Aug 2018 #135

Well put! True Dough Aug 2018 #152

What difference will winning make if we turn into them in order to do it? EffieBlack Aug 2018 #125

This. n/t ObamaKerryDem Aug 2018 #169

Bad karma, dude. cwydro Aug 2018 #138

You are absolutely right. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #201

Yup... if we don't make fun of a dead man, "We will lose the Republic..." LanternWaste Aug 2018 #225

So you justify that there is no decency in politics anymore by calling McCain a shitbag???? politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2018 #103

I know, right? Tipperary Aug 2018 #150

Bullshit. orangecrush Aug 2018 #113

Well said. Captain Stern Aug 2018 #124

You forgot orangecrush Aug 2018 #163

One person's decency is another person's staying true to themselves. Magoo48 Aug 2018 #202

Thank You for posting your comment Sherman A1 Aug 2018 #85

I 100% agree Siwsan Aug 2018 #5

Empathy for the family is fine! atreides1 Aug 2018 #16

I don't have any empathy for the family either gopiscrap Aug 2018 #32

Senator McCain is past needing anyone's sympathy or empathy Siwsan Aug 2018 #39

I am sorry that you and your family had to go through this janterry Aug 2018 #66

Did you forget DownriverDem Aug 2018 #40

0ne decent vote out of many gopiscrap Aug 2018 #46

There are many decent things he did, if you take the time to look - pazzyanne Aug 2018 #171

Question is does one decent vote outweigh the many other negative ones done by him? cstanleytech Aug 2018 #57

I repeat, there were more than just "one thing" that he did. pazzyanne Aug 2018 #172

I am not taking the credit away for when I think he got it right I am simply not offering up cstanleytech Aug 2018 #210

Thank you, Hekate. Well said! n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #6

K&R! mcar Aug 2018 #7

Unfotunately, the farther away from the political center of the spectrum in either direction, Trust Buster Aug 2018 #8

Yep...:( n/t ObamaKerryDem Aug 2018 #14

I don't know about that... MoonchildCA Aug 2018 #151

Point well taken. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #154

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Aug 2018 #9

Yes njhoneybadger Aug 2018 #10

We are being much more respectful than those on conservative sites MiniMe Aug 2018 #11

Hardly anything to be proud of. EffieBlack Aug 2018 #20

Yes we are. JohnnyRingo Aug 2018 #161

Thank you! ObamaKerryDem Aug 2018 #12

Thank you. We must be better than all this. VOX Aug 2018 #13

K&R canetoad Aug 2018 #15

It reminds me of when Gerald Ford passed. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #17

Thank you! EffieBlack Aug 2018 #18

I feel the same. I feel so much compassion for John McCain now. I'm letting go of my hatred. trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #27

I feel the same way NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #43

Thanks back atcha Hekate Aug 2018 #55

Is there really any reason to hold a grudge? gratuitous Aug 2018 #19

... Soxfan58 Aug 2018 #21

Death is sad. Respect to his service. We don't have to be mum about whether or not we think his JCanete Aug 2018 #22

Totally agree..... dawnie51 Aug 2018 #24

Normally I steer clear of thread like this but... Downtown Hound Aug 2018 #25

thank you I totally agree with you gopiscrap Aug 2018 #33

To use your words: "So be it". Enjoy your "authenticity". nt Atticus Aug 2018 #65

When I think of the hundreds of thousands of innocent dead in Iraq, Downtown Hound Aug 2018 #78

I could explain it to you, but I can't understanderstand it for you, especially when Atticus Aug 2018 #89

Sarah Palin...enough said. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #70

Yes snowybirdie Aug 2018 #26

Thank you. K&R lamp_shade Aug 2018 #28

here is a video of the last decent republican? tiredtoo Aug 2018 #29

Not what she said. A video of a complex man acting decently. nt irisblue Aug 2018 #36

Compare and contrast: dalton99a Aug 2018 #71

I agree.... Pachamama Aug 2018 #31

Branch Trumpvidians waking up? 47of74 Aug 2018 #188

I wonder what makes the grave dancers think they are any different than the deplorables. BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #34

Because they think the people they hate are awful, so their cruelty toward them is justified. EffieBlack Aug 2018 #99

Well said, Effie. BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #122

Exactly. Two sides of same coin in this way. n/t ObamaKerryDem Aug 2018 #167

They aren't. They are just as deplorable. EllieBC Aug 2018 #157

Agreed. Thank you. CaptainTruth Aug 2018 #37

Might I also suggest matt819 Aug 2018 #38

K&R PatSeg Aug 2018 #41

Thank you Bradshaw3 Aug 2018 #42

Two John McCains dentair152 Aug 2018 #44

K & R and a thank you. pazzyanne Aug 2018 #45

agree 100% . . . no reason for anything BUT "common decency" DrDan Aug 2018 #48

Amen, Hekate Daddy J Aug 2018 #49

Thank you. Welcome to DU, where passions run high and hot... Hekate Aug 2018 #60

About his "service" and "record" Hestia Aug 2018 #189

Cancer has no political affiliation Lakerstan Aug 2018 #50

A friend that I have known since she was born had her thirf radiation treatment today True Blue American Aug 2018 #98

See that's the thing... luvallpeeps Aug 2018 #51

I don't base empathy on my political views. The end of a life is not a victory for anyone. dameatball Aug 2018 #52

+1 Lucinda Aug 2018 #53

Agree! radical noodle Aug 2018 #56

Someone passing is never a good thing.. And does require sympathy... GetRidOfThem Aug 2018 #58

Deathbed may be a little premature but, Lunabell Aug 2018 #59

Thank you Hekate, but remember GusBob Aug 2018 #61

Decency for the dead? Here you go. TheKingofSoup Aug 2018 #62

Here's ya go. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #79

You compare McCain True Blue American Aug 2018 #101

and pol pot and Hitler JI7 Aug 2018 #115

Nope: First off, no idea who John Gacey is. TheKingofSoup Aug 2018 #132

Gacey killed all those boys True Blue American Aug 2018 #186

It's fun to pretend the contrast we create is not contrast at all. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #226

Enjoy your stay Hekate Aug 2018 #117

Well said. Scruffy1 Aug 2018 #206

I believe that this is a time when we can emulate Michelle Obama TNNurse Aug 2018 #63

Dotard could always send a video. keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #107

100% Agreed relayerbob Aug 2018 #64

I believe in calling a spade a spade. BigDemVoter Aug 2018 #67

Well said gopiscrap Aug 2018 #140

Threads like this show who has class pintobean Aug 2018 #68

Agree or disagree, he's done and sacrificed more for our country than many of the keyboard warriors EffieBlack Aug 2018 #102

K&R RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #69

Thoughts and prayers Fritz Walter Aug 2018 #72

The coarsening of DU is ominous. nolabear Aug 2018 #73

I agree. We are going to lose some good people if this keeps up. nt Hekate Aug 2018 #121

by having us be courser, we are closer to winning again gopiscrap Aug 2018 #143

Noted. nolabear Aug 2018 #155

I give thanks to the fact that I do not have to live with hate in my heart. pazzyanne Aug 2018 #177

After almost 18 years on here, I ditched a few weeks back for the most part Blue_Adept Aug 2018 #199

Little early but... N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2018 #74

You don't have to tell me twice!!! I would naturally do that. He's a fine, ethical, family man. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #75

Thank you. CentralMass Aug 2018 #76

He has earned our respect bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #77

What's the point? Chakaconcarne Aug 2018 #80

Not an enemy The Wizard Aug 2018 #81

No comment (n/t) PJMcK Aug 2018 #82

He remained in the Hanoi Hilton when he could have gone home jg10003 Aug 2018 #83

VC named him SONGBIRD at140 Aug 2018 #112

They offered to release him early because he was an admiral's son, planning to use it as propaganda Hekate Aug 2018 #119

Has anyone seen documentary evidence of that offer at140 Aug 2018 #136

do you really believe he endured 7 years of torture jg10003 Aug 2018 #129

Honestly, how would it look politically at140 Aug 2018 #139

Not true. john657 Aug 2018 #196

Can you name ONE war McCain was against? at140 Aug 2018 #197

Point taken. john657 Aug 2018 #208

You are right..now that he is dead, RIP John McCain at140 Aug 2018 #221

yeah and look how that election turned out gopiscrap Aug 2018 #145

Take your BS over to FR. n/t NanceGreggs Aug 2018 #180

Which war was McCain against? at140 Aug 2018 #194

Like I said ... NanceGreggs Aug 2018 #219

Convenient response... at140 Aug 2018 #220

I don't give a flying fuck ... NanceGreggs Aug 2018 #222

That claim has been well debunked whopis01 Aug 2018 #182

There are stories both pro & con in Google search.. at140 Aug 2018 #193

Yeah. FR right wing BS can be found all over. whopis01 Aug 2018 #223

He is dead and gone now...RIP at140 Aug 2018 #224

i agree..he did what he believed in..he will be missed..i tweeted meghan my sympthies.. samnsara Aug 2018 #84

Agreed! Rebl2 Aug 2018 #87

I agree with your post. Lifelong Protester Aug 2018 #149

Honorable man. James48 Aug 2018 #88

I will not be judging Democrats Cary Aug 2018 #90

I agree gopiscrap Aug 2018 #146

Hear, hear! Thank you! KPN Aug 2018 #91

It is always sad True Blue American Aug 2018 #92

+1 Lady_Chat Aug 2018 #95

Thank you! mia Aug 2018 #93

God knows I don't always do the right thing, but LuvNewcastle Aug 2018 #94

K&R denbot Aug 2018 #97

Agree Raine Aug 2018 #100

I will never forget him defending Obama, to that audience member Lady_Chat Aug 2018 #104

I agree wildflowergardener Aug 2018 #105

Thoughts and prayers is all I have to say. Autumn Aug 2018 #106

I am in total agreement with you. whathehell Aug 2018 #108

I agree. We get nothing by dancing on his grave and hurling insults at a dying man. Fla Dem Aug 2018 #109

Bullshit gopiscrap Aug 2018 #147

McCain is the king of war mongers and neocons at140 Aug 2018 #110

I totally agree gopiscrap Aug 2018 #144

Glioblastoma is a terrible way to die iamateacher Aug 2018 #114

Hating on Mccain and Barbara bush as they are dying is first world luxury JI7 Aug 2018 #116

K&R defacto7 Aug 2018 #118

I totally agree Hekate FakeNoose Aug 2018 #126

McCain said something very similar when condemning torture ThoughtCriminal Aug 2018 #127

And that is the truth. nt Hekate Aug 2018 #134

It's easy to feel compassion for people you like, tougher for those you don't. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #128

Yes iamateacher Aug 2018 #133

Agreed. TomSlick Aug 2018 #130

As a Vietnam War veteran I have nothing but respect and admiration for Sen. McCain. Jack-o-Lantern Aug 2018 #131

If you truly embrace liberalism at its heart, you won't grave dance. phleshdef Aug 2018 #137

Agree with this karin_sj Aug 2018 #142

Fuck Cancer! AnnieBW Aug 2018 #141

K and r and completely agree. Tipperary Aug 2018 #148

Brought us Sarah Palin. zentrum Aug 2018 #156

Thank you, Hekate. The keyboard warriors will continue EllieBC Aug 2018 #158

I wish Senator McCain a peaceful crossing tavernier Aug 2018 #159

I think he's really not a bad guy. JohnnyRingo Aug 2018 #160

McCain is dying- and it's a rough way down. Put aside your warrior's tools and let him go. NBachers Aug 2018 #162

I generally dislike McCain, but I don't mind biting my tongue in the interest of taste... D23MIURG23 Aug 2018 #164

McCain tried to eliminate legalized college sports wagering in Nevada Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #166

Exactly! ObamaKerryDem Aug 2018 #168

And sod off with these posts as well. greyl Aug 2018 #170

It's not about me, and I did not make it about me. You did. Hekate Aug 2018 #179

This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid Aug 2018 #173

Yes, you are. ObamaKerryDem Aug 2018 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid Aug 2018 #178

So you are planning to grave dance then. ObamaKerryDem Aug 2018 #216

I see more and more of our new members like yourself are just absolutely delightful Blue_Adept Aug 2018 #200

I second the common decency argument Norbert Aug 2018 #174

I wholeheartedly agree. SergeStorms Aug 2018 #176

John McCain has my respect. democrank Aug 2018 #181

While I had profound disagreements with McCain's politics Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2018 #183

I cannot say it better. Raster Aug 2018 #184

Thank you for saying this. I refuse to go to their level of nasty when it comes to a war hero. redstatebluegirl Aug 2018 #185

kick & rec. nt Ilsa Aug 2018 #187

Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2018 #190

My respect is this: He rejected the attacks on Obama publically and clearly. olegramps Aug 2018 #191

agreed recovering_democrat Aug 2018 #192

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #195

Agree To Disagree titanicdave Aug 2018 #198

um, he's not dead yet. Mosby Aug 2018 #211

......Yes, I know that...... titanicdave Aug 2018 #213

Thanks Hekate, my friend. I am late to this thread, and that makes it eye opening. Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #205

It's encouraging to see most agree that the community can show its better self... Hekate Aug 2018 #207

If nothing else.... defacto7 Aug 2018 #209

It will be hard to remember this when Trump or Cheney kick the bucket. jalan48 Aug 2018 #212

I will not slam him or say bad stuff about him maxrandb Aug 2018 #214

RIP Senator Hekate Aug 2018 #217

God's speed Senator Greywing Aug 2018 #218

Is it not possible to lament somebody's death and share condolences Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2018 #227