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14. There is no escaping divisiveness in a Sanders candidacy...as we have seen with the attacks

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:31 AM

Jan 2019

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on Beto and a very divisive fund raising letter sent by Sen. Sanders himself. He should remain in the Senate too because, there is a Republican governor in Vermont who will appoint a Republican to his seat should he win.

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Bernie will probably run, unless some other candidate credibly champions "Medicare for all". [View all] redgreenandblue Jan 2019 OP

What about the public option?!!? Why is MFA the end of the conversation !? uponit7771 Jan 2019 #1

Completely agree. I think the wise candidate advocates this over MFA. OrlandoDem2 Jan 2019 #4

Indeed. The goal should be universal health care in whatever form is the fastest ehrnst Jan 2019 #6

Folks might want to read area51 Jan 2019 #56

It isn't. But it is a position that will likely be represented in the 2020 field in some form. redgreenandblue Jan 2019 #10

MFA is starting to sounds like a purity test when there are other options uponit7771 Jan 2019 #22

You know you don't start bargaining with the position you are willing to accept, right? shanny Jan 2019 #64

Hell in that case start with MFA and paid sick leave, anything else is too low uponit7771 Jan 2019 #83

bargaining 101 shanny Jan 2019 #85

it isn't the end of the conversation. Bernie is just one person advocating for one thing. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #15

Pretty sure Booker, Harris and Warren were on board with MFA. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #18

Yep. They are. That's why I don't support them. I think Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #21

yes how foolish to run on health care for all shanny Jan 2019 #65

Do not try to put words in my mouth. I SAID.... Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #88

I am sure the general public will make that distinction. shanny Jan 2019 #89

Go bother somebody else. nt Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #90

lol shanny Jan 2019 #91

Completely agree... Public Option is the place to start. NT Adrahil Jan 2019 #32

Public Option is the place to settle for...for now. shanny Jan 2019 #66

If the public option is better... Adrahil Jan 2019 #74

Most every other 1st World country has single payer. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #50

Implication of false dichotomy, it's not either or we can have both. I'm no stuck on MFA and wont uponit7771 Jan 2019 #51

Well, if you have single payer, why would you need public option? But, sure. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #63

I don't understand why we have to marry MFA or be accused of being against universal care. betsuni Jan 2019 #93

+1, MFA is starting to look like a purity test ... hope it's not. uponit7771 Jan 2019 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #2

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2019 #5

There is no space for being devisive over a Bernie Danders candidacy CentralMass Jan 2019 #8

There is no escaping divisiveness in a Sanders candidacy...as we have seen with the attacks Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #14

There Are Other Issues Also Me. Jan 2019 #62

I wouldn't vote for him in a primary. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #82

Thank you for saying this... you beat me too it! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #23

You're right; we all need to agree that he should not run. /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #68

BS is the Divisive one.. he went on CNN Cha Jan 2019 #86

The only ppl that are against him now.. disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #20

No they don't lie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #24

Sorry, that dog don't hunt. Voted for him in the primary, When we had the Treasury funds to do Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #31

This is false on its face, Sanders is a no go from the start because of his taxes. Screw that, we... uponit7771 Jan 2019 #33

Ummm... apparently the numbers DO lie. Adrahil Jan 2019 #34

I see a lot of people on twitter every day and even here on DU that say Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #37

Numbers don't lie Hav Jan 2019 #43

except the estimated* 8 million Obama-to-Trump voters shanny Jan 2019 #67

Sorry, Shanny: "The Myth of the Obama-Trump Voter" emulatorloo Jan 2019 #73

Numbers may not lie, but the people that quote them often do. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #48

LOL Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #58

I was for Sanders in 2016 primary. I will not support him in primary 2020. emulatorloo Jan 2019 #78

That's untrue. Cha Jan 2019 #87

The daily Bernie posts on DU..... Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #27

ALL candidates will have to disclose tax returns, in some states, hopefully Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #52

Bernie will run because of his ego... SidDithers Jan 2019 #3

bernie never walks away from a microphone near him. its always ego beachbum bob Jan 2019 #7

"the only alternative to Hillary in a 2 person race" - And perhaps that was the main problem. redgreenandblue Jan 2019 #9

Guess we'll see. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #25

Julian Castro is a 100%, unequivocal supporter of Medicare for All. bullwinkle428 Jan 2019 #11

We'll then, he's obviously a smart candidate... time to take a serious look at JC. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #26

Julian is a solid candidate brokephibroke Jan 2019 #46

So there! Julian Castro would be exponentially Cha Jan 2019 #92

I think M4A would sink an eventual nominee because.. Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #12

He shouldn't run... he will not win a primary and can only divide. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #13

I think recent news has spotlighted one of the big reasons so many are troubled by another Sanders MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #16

Yep. Of the potential candidates, they've been throwing shade at the Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #17

I still think that sanders is busy selling his poorly reviewed book and will not run Gothmog Jan 2019 #19

Elizabeth Warren, a DEMOCRAT, is at least one of those candidates, and there will be more DEMOCRATS still_one Jan 2019 #28

The Democratic nominee in 2020 will have released 10 years of tax returns. yardwork Jan 2019 #35

He needs to stay out. themaguffin Jan 2019 #36

Bernie touched a nerve when he ran in 2016 and millions of Americans responded positively to jalan48 Jan 2019 #38

Yeah, but it was the same nerve for the left that Trump was for the right /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #40

And Bernie is still one of the most popular politicians in the US. jalan48 Jan 2019 #42

So what? That doesn't make him electable, but it can make him a spoiler. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #45

I doubt Bernie would get elected if he ran as an independent and I don't believe he will be another jalan48 Jan 2019 #47

Sanders has made working together impossible with his continued attacks on Democrats LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #49

Is that why the Democrats made Bernie the Chairman of Outreach Committee? jalan48 Jan 2019 #57

They have to mollify his followers; he'll never have any real power. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #59

Good luck with that mollifying. jalan48 Jan 2019 #61

seriously what does that even mean. There are vast differences here, and trying to equate them JCanete Jan 2019 #70

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it's a new line of attack on Bernie and Progressives. jalan48 Jan 2019 #84

Where are his tax returns? BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #69

And then millions of others voted for Clinton. Tough for some to accept this fact. brooklynite Jan 2019 #77

MFA is a slogan ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #39

You're definitely correct about the caregiver issue. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #95

Go Bernie! Joe941 Jan 2019 #41

He's still not a Democrat, so no candidacy under our banner. sunonmars Jan 2019 #44

oh I see, you're the arbiter of such matters? Why'd you let him run last time? nt JCanete Jan 2019 #72

Because we mistakenly believed that he would make his points and then bow out when it was clear that LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #74

I hope we have a full line up of progressive democrats running for office...including, ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #53

I doubt that Hav Jan 2019 #54

... LexVegas Jan 2019 #55

As long as he COMMITS to electing the Democratic nominee Hortensis Jan 2019 #60

There's the question of enthusiasm, sincerity, and timeliness as well. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #80

"I alone can fix it so therefore I will run." BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #71

I don't support "Medicare for All"..... brooklynite Jan 2019 #76

I hope not. If nominated, he could not defeat Trump. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #79

I think Warren supports mfa also. AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #81